Hi Bas,
to suit those needs, you could introduce a 'default vote' to a page, and
allow organizers to set the number of stars people can choose from. In
practice, that would mean you could get 200 images on a page to scroll
through, all with 1 star. Only the ones you like, you can then give 2 stars
(or 5). Then at the end, you only have to sort on ranking, and take the
top-200.
This does mean, we need a way to 'extract' a selection of photos from the
tool.
Lodewijk
2012/6/21 Bas vb <basvb_wikipedia(a)live.nl>
No voter will watch all images (or maybe not even a
big part), so I think
a public voting system will only work with lists up to a maximum of 500
pictures. Watching 10.000 pictures (and some will have 50k) just takes
quite some time (1-2 days).
Last year I scrolled to the categories (looking 200 pictures in 10
seconds), every picture that I liked or jumped out was then opened in a new
tab by me, and if I liked the picture I copied the link and added it to a
page with wikistyle pictures on big size (700px) this page I watched in
preview edit mode and this way narrowed down the selection.
I think a basic but strong to tool to speed this up very much is to skip
the copy the link and place it somewhere else part of that and make that a
simple mouseclick.
so you start with a huge category, you go throught that page by page (200
pictures a time), and select those that you like (the add pictures to list
mode). These will then show in a list (where you can pick the pixel size),
there you have a delete mode to delete pictures not good enough. The only
thing is, no saving on Commons should be involved because
participants/everybody shouldn't see what the juries select (at least not
to soon).
You can also consider voting, but I think that only voting for all the
10-50k pictures in some country will not work at all, because then you at
least need like 20 people who watch all pictures (and are a bit neutral (eg
not vote own pictures or ask friends)), if people only look to the most
voted pictures, or some 500 pictures picked some way (by name etc) then
very good pictures will be missed. You just need some neutral people to
watch everything and make selections. After that you might choose to let
the public vote on these selections (say the selections consist of 50-500
pictures.
I simply think that getting a rating on every image will be impossible,
that will take people days.
Mvg,
Bas
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From: lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:47:11 +0200
To: wikilovesmonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] jury process - easy and neat?
Hi Katie,
I'm particularly referring to the national processes here. I saw someone
mention that India might get 100.000 images... (worst case?) and that got
me thinking ;) Every country will have a slightly different process.
I think it is a nice approach to have people rate. If we can just then add
access options (access for all, or for a specified group). I don't have a
clou if WP is the best option. But bear in mind the interface should be
able to hold up to 100.000 images. Ideally:
* It would allow organizers to simply insert a list of commons file names
for the photos
* It would allow organizers to specify who should have access to the
voting interface
* It would allow organizers to have an overview of who voted, how often
* it would allow the user to show X images on a page, on a specified size
and rank each of them
* It would allow the user to sort based on name, date, number of rankings
and current ranking
* It would include a simple option (clicking) to enlarge the picture, and
include a link to the detail page on commons.
Does that make sense?
Lodewijk
2012/6/21 aude <aude.wiki(a)gmail.com>
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>wrote;wrote:
Hi all,
is there anyone who would be willing to help set up a jury process tool
that can be used in multiple countries? I'm looking for a software tool
that makes juring more easy than going through commons categories. Would be
happy to brainstorm if someone is willing to work it out.
We have a technical volunteer "intern" helping us in DC and this is
something he wants to work on.
I'm not exactly sure how the process worked last year, but we're thinking
either integrating something into the WordPress site so that people can
browse photos (pulled from Commons, like InstantCommons) and rate them. A
public voting phase could help narrow the selection for the jury, which
could also make use of the tool.
Thoughts? suggestions? brilliant ideas?
Cheers,
Katie
Thanks!
Lodewijk
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