-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sylvain, I can't speak on behalf of the Polish Wikimedia chapter, but personally I think that this is an excellent idea, both for PR and media reasons, and of course it may potentially have an influence on our future contacts with the institutions of the EU (dreams, I know). Only if we could manage to have not only the award ceremony, but maybe also a couple of accompanying events, too? Wikimedia Poland will organise an exhibition of the winning POTY pictures in late September, and I think there will be no problem with lending the materials for the ceremony in Brussels if there will by an interest in that. You have my full support for the idea and if you'll need an official help from our chapter, just let me know; I hope that other people will also find the idea interesting. Warm regards, - -- Tomasz Kozłowski | [[user:odder]] _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu

Hi Sylvain, all, although it sounds exciting, I'm afraid we have to be realistic. 1) it is rather impossible to fly in all winners - even if we have the budget for that (which we don't) - because of the tight time frame. If we fly nobody in, it would basically be a press conference, and no press will be really interested in that I assume. 2) currently, we have no budget for a ceremony - so you would have to find that (there was money budgetted, but since we were not able to fill in all budget with money from chapters, we have to limit ourselves) 3) at least Maarten and I have no time to organize such a meeting - it requires quite a lot of work because you need to get an interesting program to attract people in the first place. 4) We got accepted at DISH 2011, and can do the prize announcement in the presentation there. In other words: although it sounds like an exciting opportunity, it requires a lot of work and budget - both recourses being thin spread. If someone else is able to find the budget and capacity to organize it, we can of course consider it though - but in that case I'd like to know first a bit more what such a ceremony would look like. best, lodewijk 2011/8/23 Sylvain Boissel <sylvain.boissel(a)wikimedia.fr> _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu

Hi Sylvain, all, although it sounds exciting, I'm afraid we have to be realistic. 1) it is rather impossible to fly in all winners - even if we have the budget for that (which we don't) - because of the tight time frame. If we fly nobody in, it would basically be a press conference, and no press will be really interested in that I assume.

2) currently, we have no budget for a ceremony - so you would have to find that (there was money budgetted, but since we were not able to fill in all budget with money from chapters, we have to limit ourselves)

3) at least Maarten and I have no time to organize such a meeting - it requires quite a lot of work because you need to get an interesting program to attract people in the first place.

4) We got accepted at DISH 2011, and can do the prize announcement in the presentation there.

2011/8/23 Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org> If by "all winners", you mean the 180 winners (10 selected pics * 18 participating countries), I agree, of course. But flying in the final winners of the European contest (how many are they supposed to be, by the way ? There is no indication about that in http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Concept ) can be realistic.

Basically, what we want to do is a combination of the following : - Held a small award ceremony, giving their prize to the winners. No need to have hundreds of people to come... - An exhibition of the winning photographs - A conference about some topic on which we want the eurodeputies to work and which is relevant to the contest (the first thing that comes to mind is Freedom of Panorama.) - At the same time, a "Wikimedia Takes Brussels" :) IMO, none of these would necesit more time or money than we can afford.

2) currently, we have no budget for a ceremony - so you would have to find that (there was money budgetted, but since we were not able to fill in all budget with money from chapters, we have to limit ourselves) I think Wikimédia France can pay for what is related to the event itself, and maybe the other European chapters can help with the transportation and accomodation of the winners ?

Hello, I would like to relaunch the discussion. Taking in account everything that was told on this list, here is what I suggest : Ask some Members of the European Parliament (at last Yannick Jadot[1] which we already know for having met him in June, but if you know about other MEPs who might be interested, feel free to point me their names ;)) to book a room at the European Parliament for us in December and do the following : - A one-month (for example) exibition of the twelve winning pictures. - the day of the inauguration, a conference on Freedom of Panorama for the MEPs in late afternoon, followed by the opening of the exhibition. No need to have all the winners present, or to pay for their fly, but we can tell them they can come if they want. The purpose of this would be both to communicate about WLM and do some lobbying, and, incidentally, to maintain our contacts with members of Parliament Wikimedia France staff (namely, me and Adrienne) would handle all the necessary work, and Antoine can organize a Wikimedia Takes Brussels at the same time. If there are no objections to this, I'll recontact Yannick Jadot's personnal assistant - we met her back in June, and she is aware of the opportunity to organize an event about Wiki Loves Monuments. Best Regards, Sylvain. [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yannick_Jadot 2011/8/24 Sylvain Boissel <sylvain.boissel(a)wikimedia.fr> -- Sylvain Boissel Chargé de mission communauté et technologie de Wikimédia France www.wikimedia.fr 06.18.90.71.04 - sylvain.boissel(a)wikimedia.fr

Hi, Try contacting Swedens Pirate party MEP Christian Engström, http://christianengstrom.wordpress.com/about/, or his assistant Henrik Alexandersson, +32 (0)484 088 770 or hax(a)bahnhof.se. They are open for free licenses and open software and against monopolies and strange FoP-rules. /axel ==================================== Axel Pettersson tele +46 (0)8 641 81 79 mobil +46 (0)730 59 58 13 haxpett(a)hotmail.com press(a)wikimedia.se Wikimedia.se - Stöd fri kunskap! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:33:05 +0200 From: sylvain.boissel(a)wikimedia.fr To: wikilovesmonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] European WLM Awards Ceremony Hello, Some news : in the last email I got from an assistant of Yannick Jadot, she told me that booking a room in the Parliament in December would be very hard, as this month is in high demand. Lodewijk suggests that I try to book a room in late January or in February. Booking a room in the Parliament is much easier if we have several Members of the European Parlement supporting it, and not just one. So if you, or members of your chapter (I especially think about WM NL, DE and PL ;)) already have contact with MEPs, please ask them if they would agree to support the event, or at last give me their names so that Jannick Jadot's assistants get in touch with their own assistants (that's part of their job after all :)). Same thing if you know a MEP that you never had direct contact with but you think he would be interested in WLM, don't hesitate to give me his name ;) If you want to directly contact your MEP, here are some points : - the project is to held (in late January or in February) a "closing ceremony"* for Wikilovesmonuments, which would consist of a conference on Freedom of Panorama followed by a cocktail, in the Europarliament in Brussels. At the same time (before or after), an exhibition of the winning photos would be made somewhere in the Parliament. - don't forget to talk about the success of the contest :) If you need more details, don't hesitate to contact me. Best regards, Sylvain. (*) It would make no sense in helding an awards ceremony so late... 2011/9/19 Sylvain Boissel <sylvain.boissel(a)wikimedia.fr> Hello, I would like to relaunch the discussion. Taking in account everything that was told on this list, here is what I suggest : Ask some Members of the European Parliament (at last Yannick Jadot[1] which we already know for having met him in June, but if you know about other MEPs who might be interested, feel free to point me their names ;)) to book a room at the European Parliament for us in December and do the following : - A one-month (for example) exibition of the twelve winning pictures. - the day of the inauguration, a conference on Freedom of Panorama for the MEPs in late afternoon, followed by the opening of the exhibition. No need to have all the winners present, or to pay for their fly, but we can tell them they can come if they want. The purpose of this would be both to communicate about WLM and do some lobbying, and, incidentally, to maintain our contacts with members of Parliament Wikimedia France staff (namely, me and Adrienne) would handle all the necessary work, and Antoine can organize a Wikimedia Takes Brussels at the same time. If there are no objections to this, I'll recontact Yannick Jadot's personnal assistant - we met her back in June, and she is aware of the opportunity to organize an event about Wiki Loves Monuments. Best Regards, Sylvain. [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yannick_Jadot 2011/8/24 Sylvain Boissel <sylvain.boissel(a)wikimedia.fr> 2011/8/23 Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org> Hi Sylvain, all, although it sounds exciting, I'm afraid we have to be realistic. 1) it is rather impossible to fly in all winners - even if we have the budget for that (which we don't) - because of the tight time frame. If we fly nobody in, it would basically be a press conference, and no press will be really interested in that I assume. If by "all winners", you mean the 180 winners (10 selected pics * 18 participating countries), I agree, of course. But flying in the final winners of the European contest (how many are they supposed to be, by the way ? There is no indication about that in http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Concept ) can be realistic. Basically, what we want to do is a combination of the following : - Held a small award ceremony, giving their prize to the winners. No need to have hundreds of people to come... - An exhibition of the winning photographs - A conference about some topic on which we want the eurodeputies to work and which is relevant to the contest (the first thing that comes to mind is Freedom of Panorama.) - At the same time, a "Wikimedia Takes Brussels" :) IMO, none of these would necesit more time or money than we can afford. 2) currently, we have no budget for a ceremony - so you would have to find that (there was money budgetted, but since we were not able to fill in all budget with money from chapters, we have to limit ourselves) I think Wikimédia France can pay for what is related to the event itself, and maybe the other European chapters can help with the transportation and accomodation of the winners ? 3) at least Maarten and I have no time to organize such a meeting - it requires quite a lot of work because you need to get an interesting program to attract people in the first place. Maarten and you have already done much, we don't ask you anything ;) 4) We got accepted at DISH 2011, and can do the prize announcement in the presentation there. What is it ? I've never heard of that... Regards, Sylvain. -- Sylvain Boissel Chargé de mission communauté et technologie de Wikimédia France www.wikimedia.fr 06.18.90.71.04 - sylvain.boissel(a)wikimedia.fr -- Sylvain Boissel Chargé de mission communauté et technologie de Wikimédia France www.wikimedia.fr 06.18.90.71.04 - sylvain.boissel(a)wikimedia.fr -- Sylvain Boissel Chargé de mission communauté et technologie de Wikimédia France www.wikimedia.fr 06.18.90.71.04 - sylvain.boissel(a)wikimedia.fr _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu