Yes, we have all the grade II data for England and the corresponding data for Scotland,
Wales and Northern Ireland, too. However, getting that information onto Wikipedia in a
usable format is not trivial are there are getting on for half a million building
records.
Automated linkages between Wikipedia and the Monuments Database rely on each record being
represented by a template in Wikipedia, and unfortunately MediaWiki limits the number of
templates to no more than 130 or so (if my memory serves) per page. That means breaking
the records up into such small lists that navigation becomes a nightmare. Even for the
grade II* buildings we have some areas that have been split into separate pages of
buildings based on name A-M and name N-Z. Such lists are totally hopeless for users who
need to find a particular building and know neither the name it happens to have been give
in the official listing nor even in which listing area it appears (these are based largely
on obsolete county and other regional boundaries).
So, yes, it would be good to get these on, but some new approaches will be needed.
Wikidata may well be able to help in the future (eg by providing a searchable Wiki
database which is automatically linked with the various sources of official data).
Michael
On 12 Oct 2013, at 15:40, Maarten Dammers wrote:
Hi Rod,
Op 11-10-2013 13:05, rodward schreef:
Andy,
Getting the photos CC licenced would be good, however most counties/areas don't have
lists of GII buildings (certainly not using the template developed for WLM - although many
may be too long for current template restrictions). Perhaps any communication with EH
could include a request for the data & then the same semi automated development
processes applied to creating the lists (would make it much easier if GII are included
next year).
I believe we have the data, just haven't imported it yet to
Wikipedia because grade2 buildings weren't included in Wiki Loves Monuments this year.
Now that Wiki Loves Monuments is over we could start importing the remaining lists to
Wikipedia. If lists get to big you just have to split them up. This is how we did it in
the Netherlands too. For example the city I'm from (Haarlem) has over 1100
Rijksmonumenten. In the centre of the city this is so dense that I ended up with several
lists per street. All these individual lists are for Haarlem are connected through a
navigation template so you don't get lost.
Maarten
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