2011/8/9 Delphine Ménard <notafishz(a)gmail.com>om>: +1. Also: * make the badges double-sided. I asked at least 5 people to flip their badges so I could read them, and about half the people I know had come up with some way to clip the badge to their lanyard or clothes to prevent it from flipping over to the blank back side * for some reason, the role/occupation/whatever field (e.g. 'developer', 'designer', 'WMF employee', ...) was not printed on any of the WMF employees' badges, which led to people using magic markers to write "WMF" on their badges. I think it's a good idea to make WMF staff clearly visible (badge colors, per Delphine); in Buenos Aires, WMF staff had "Staff" badges, but they were the same badges worn by the conference staff (i.e. organization), so that wasn't necessarily too useful either Badge-related praise that I read on a private mailing list and totally agree with: putting the small schedule booklet inside the badges was genius and extremely useful. It's one of those little things that I never missed before I realized how great it was, and that I will now be expecting at every conference I ever attend :) Another, relatively minor, point of criticism: the shuttle schedules as communicated were incomplete. The most important bits (morning shuttle times, i.e. what time do I have to wake up to catch the shuttle) were there, but the schedules for shuttles leaving in the afternoon and evening (shuttles back to the hotels/dorms from the venue, and shuttles to/from the parties) were missing from the booklet and the web site more often than not. Personally, I think that ideally, shuttles shouldn't be necessary (if you need them, that means the host city is more spread out than I like it to be (Gdansk was perfect in terms of everything being close together); a party at a good location that's a bit far away is a good exception, but hotels/dorms shouldn't be >1km away), but if you're hosting a future Wikimania and do need them, please make sure to document their schedules very well. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

* for some reason, the role/occupation/whatever field (e.g. 'developer', 'designer', 'WMF employee', ...) was not printed on any of the WMF employees' badges, which led to people using magic markers to write "WMF" on their badges. I think it's a good idea to make WMF staff clearly visible (badge colors, per Delphine); in Buenos Aires, WMF staff had "Staff" badges, but they were the same badges worn by the conference staff (i.e. organization), so that wasn't necessarily too useful either

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Itzik Edri <itzik(a)infra.co.il> wrote: their titles I know, and I do believe I filled out that field. I don't remember what I put there myself, but I find it hard to believe that every single WMF staff member left that field blank. Roan _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

Personally, I found it a nice experience to not have all those titles thrown into my face every time I saw a badge. But then I know most of the people already, so maybe I'm not a fair person to consider there :) Lodewijk 2011/8/10 Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw(a)gmail.com> _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

2011/8/10 KIZU Naoko <aphaia(a)gmail.com>om>: That's a good point. I spoke to one Israeli Wikimedian over lunch that only had his name in Hebrew script on his badge, which was no use to me. A transliteration into the Latin alphabet would have been very helpful. _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

IPA would do better than "English" approximations usually do :) Viatcheslav 11.08.2011, 02:00, "Thomas Dalton" <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com>om>: _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

Latin script may be so bewildering you know. Reading a Hungarian or a Polish name in Latin may require knowing the orthography rules of those languages; and for reading an English name one may need to ask the bearer for the pronunciation :)  And probably just IPA would be easier, though, yes, awkward too.

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 00:15, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com>

> On 12 August 2011 01:10, Иванов Вячеслав <v.ivanov(a)amikeco.ru> wrote: >> Latin script may be so bewildering you know. >> Reading a Hungarian or a Polish name in Latin may require knowing the

Other way is to put cheap chips on the participants' badges with spoken name and ability to take the information with [the most of] smartphones. Some English transcription (not transliteration!) approximation (like [1]) of the names inside of the parentheses should work well, too. That's "IPA for those who don't know IPA". It is useful to have, for example, "Tomash" for Polish "Tomasz" and Hungarian "Tomas". [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pronunciation_respelling_key _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 00:15, Thomas Dalton &lt;thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: orthography rules of those languages; and for reading an English name one may need to ask the bearer for the pronunciation :) And probably just IPA would be easier, though, yes, awkward too. They could rely on the [[<X> phonology]] Wikipedia articles to produce the

spoken name and ability to take the information with [the most of] smartphones. Some English transcription (not transliteration!) approximation (like [1]) of the names inside of the parentheses should work well, too. That's "IPA for those who don't know IPA". It is useful to have, for example, "Tomash" for Polish "Tomasz" and Hungarian "Tomas". [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pronunciation_respelling_key _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

I would have preferred to not have the "@wikiwhatever extension.  Since SUL that has become less important. Being longer, it also makes it harder to focus on reading the name.  I do remember seeing a few where it made the name so long that it overflowed the edges of the label.

On 15 August 2011 11:04, Ray Saintonge &lt;saintonge(a)telus.net&gt; wrote: Not all accounts are unified and I need this to find the few sisterprojects editors. :-D I'm very proud of my @it.wikiquote :-p and @meta.wikimedia always deserved some praise. @mediawiki.wikimedia was indeed a bit tricky, though (and we could also use the usual abbreviations like it.quote). Nemo _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

2011/8/9 Delphine Ménard I agree, I heard about a couple of problems because of the lack of such a moderator. I'd add to his tasks (or the tasks of whoever else from the staff stays in the room all the time) to grab a copy of each presentation slides, to be uploaded to Commons or wikimaniawiki if the license is not suitable for some reason. Presenters quite often don't know how to upload to our wikis, or how to convert the files in the right format, or they just forget it.

On 9 August 2011 16:44, church.of.emacs.ml  wrote: +1 Nemo _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

Here's a thought. I stayed at what the conference called the Senate dorms, yet I see nothing on campus that indicates that it was called that. Yes, the term "Senate Dorms" does appear at the bus stop, and there is a Senate House nearby, but the dorms themselves aren't labeled as such, nor is that name on any of the direction signs or maps as far as I could tell. This hasn't caused much real trouble but it did prove to be somewhat confusing.

On 09.08.2011 15:26, Delphine Ménard wrote: let me add my few ¢ about the catering: I agree that the food was excellent, thanks for that! However, the folks who were passing out the food were clearly not up to the task. They couldn't answer any questions about the food, and it took them quite a while to pass it out. It would have worked better if people had just served themselves, especially if the food was clearly labeled.