Sorry for not mentioning earlier that Lilian passed by the meeting despite
the fact that she was on her way to Sabbath.
Regards
stephen w. wanjau
Phone: +254 771 557 857
twitter:haha_wanjau
B.Sc statistics and computer science.
JKUAT
On Jun 26, 2011 12:27 PM, "lilian nyarera" <lireshi(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
FYI Abbas, it's quite healthy for a group to meet and not edit!
>From what I know about how to handle groups, bonding sessions are important.
People can meet and talk. talking involves setting objectives about what
they are going to do next. In this case WTN matters were discussed and
targets laid. Thru that we'll surely have a large pool to work on.
My point : it was a whole multitasking &multithreading event! So much was
done besides editing.
Regards,
Lilian.
On Sun Jun 26th, 2011 2:12 AM PDT stephen wanjau wrote:
>Abbas,
>
>I like your positive criticism ...
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Kwa Wapenzi na Wapambe wa WMKE
Wasaalam kutoka kwangu nikitarajia mpo vyema.Dhamira yangu ya kuandika
barua hii ni kuwasii enyi wapenzi na wapambe wa WMKE tuwe na maelewano
na kushirikiana katika shughuli zetu a kuendeleza ukuajia wa Wikipedia
na usambazaji wa habari kwa wote
==Mizozo==
Mara si haba nimetazama tukizomeana vikali(miye nkiwemo) katika nyuzi
kadhaa a barua pepe.Swali langu ni kwa nini tuzomene ilhali sote
tumejitolee kwa hiari kuandeleza usambai wa habari?pengine wengine
wetu hatufahamu ni kwa nini tupo kwenye kundi hili le WMKE...hilo ndo
jibu nimeng'amua kwa uchungu.kwa nini?ukitazama kwa umakini,nyuzi
ziletazo udhia na tafash ni zile zilizo za kitu fulani,yaani
"faida".utapata kila watu wachangia katika uzi huo sana.kinachokera
sana ni tunapokuwa na uzi wa kung'amua na kuchangunua makala au miradi
inayoohusu WMKE(kama vile Bylwas,WTN) nk,ni wachache sana hujitokea
kuchangia kwa miradi hizi.Ilhali miradi hii haswa ndio maana ya kuwepo
kwa WMKE na sio zile a "faida"
==kukosoana==
Ni vyema kukosoana kila mara tunapoteleza.Miye nafurahi kukosolewa au
mtu kukosoa mawazo au michango yangu.Lakini nadhani ingekuwa vyema
tukosoane kwa heshima na pia toa suluhu au wazo mbadala,sio tu
kunikosoa bila sababu.
==Heko==
Mara nyingi tumesaha jinsi ya kuwapa na kutia watu motisha.Ningepende
tusikosoane tu,bali kuwapongeza wenzetu na kuwapa heko kwa kazi nuri
walo/wafanyazo.Hekow huwatia watu motisha wa kuendela kufanya
vyema.Kwa hayo,miye binafsi ningependa kuwatia wafuata heko kwa kazi
yao/michango yao katika kukua miradi na WMKE
*Abbas-anashughulika maswala ya sheria(Bylaws) na pia anauunda
wavuti(website) wetu kwa sasa...heko Abbas:-)
*Alex-anashughulika mawsala ya WTN na pia yeye alitutengezea posta
maridadi ya WikiSaturday ya JKUAT...kazi nzuri Alex
*Steve-alisughulika na kuanda makala ya WikiSaturday ya JKUAT na pia
ni mshrika mkuu.Alipiga chapa na kusambaza posta za WikiSaturday kwa
kutumia hela ake...Heko Steve
...kama sijakutaja samahani,sijataka kuwahudhi watu na barua
refu...sku nyingine na sijakusudia.
Tafadhali:Nawaomba wanachama kutazama wavuti wa Wikipedia Takes
Nairobi Hapa:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_takes_Nairobi/Goals
na kuchangia ili tufanikishe mradi huu.
Pia naomba wanachama watazame makala ya Abbas ya Sheria na kuyapiga
msasa na kuchanganua kabla yatumwe kwani hizi ndizo sheria zitakazo
tuongoa na ni vyuema kutoa mchango wako.
Mwsiho tazama wavuti wetu hapa:
http://wikimedia.or.ke/Visit_of_Asaf_Bartov_from_the_Wikimedia_Foundation
ili tujadiliane kuhusu kuja kwa Asaf na vile twaweza kufaidi kwa ziara yake.
p/s:nimetumia Swahili maana haya ni mambo yetu ya "ndani",..-)
--
Limoke Oscar,
FYI Abbas, it's quite healthy for a group to meet and not edit!
>From what I know about how to handle groups, bonding sessions are important. People can meet and talk. talking involves setting objectives about what they are going to do next. In this case WTN matters were discussed and targets laid. Thru that we'll surely have a large pool to work on.
My point : it was a whole multitasking &multithreading event! So much was done besides editing.
Regards,
Lilian.
On Sun Jun 26th, 2011 2:12 AM PDT stephen wanjau wrote:
>Abbas,
>
>I like your positive criticism on the minutes posted herein somehow.
>But remember We cannot sit back quiet about some pertinent issues that
>concern our chapter because we were editting wikipedia.FYI, We typed as we
>talked and it seemed a better chance since we never have any other meet
>ups. Do we?
>
>No one, even you had mentioned anything about logistics to be laid down as
>we host Asaf in a months time. Or if that's not important please let me
>know.
>
>Asaf's visit thread in the mailing list is the shortest in ranking if I
>compared to; the recent SA visit whose emails came in like it was a live
>chat , the WTN thread (do you even know it exists?),the Mombasa pilot, the
>Kakamega pilot and the Nyeri pilot were also 'well discussed'.
>
>However, I would like to inform you and other members who did not attend
>that the usual editting was done and probably in deeper detail.
>
>* Chris n Sarah shall be looking for places and names in Nairobi then fill
>in the targets at our WTN goals wiki -I bet they can only do this only if
>they know how to edit wikipedia.
>
>*Alex shall be filling in the scavenger hunt site with reference to the
>populated Wiki.
>
>* Oscar L. And I shall write Kiswahili stubs about places with non- existant
>articles since members withdrew from swahili citing they are not quite
>comfortable with swahili language. Do you know why Swahili and not English?
>
>Oscar took the newbie who attended through the whole induction and be
>informed he learnt very quickly and he has an article already. Let me lias
>with him then I would probably forward you his wikipedia username, for
>content moderation!
>
>I am beginning to speculate there are volunteers who are more equal than
>others!
>
>In peace and Very truly,
>
>stephen w. wanjau
>Phone: +254 771 557 857
>twitter:haha_wanjau
>B.Sc statistics and computer science.
>JKUAT
>
>On Jun 26, 2011 11:33 AM, "Abbas Mahmood" <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>I love the enthusiasm that JKUAT folks have. However, I hate to break it
>down to you that WikiSaturday is (as far as I'm concerned) not aimed to
>discuss matters pertaining WMKE but more importantly to teach members how to
>edit.
>
>I know that the matters in your agenda are paramount, but in the general
>Wikimedia community, editing is a top priority:
>http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_Trends_Study. Sadly, editing was
>not even explicitly mentioned in your agenda.I honestly do believe that
>editing should be number 1 on your agenda, since less than a fifth of the
>current members are Wikipedia editors.
>
>Just a suggestion.
>
>//abbas.
>
>------------------------------
>Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:00:25 +0300
>From: chriwaustin(a)gmail.com
>To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wiki-Saturday Minutes
>
>
>
>Hallo everyone,
>These are the minutes for the Wiki-Saturday session that we held today on
>25th of ...
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Abbas,
I like your positive criticism on the minutes posted herein somehow.
But remember We cannot sit back quiet about some pertinent issues that
concern our chapter because we were editting wikipedia.FYI, We typed as we
talked and it seemed a better chance since we never have any other meet
ups. Do we?
No one, even you had mentioned anything about logistics to be laid down as
we host Asaf in a months time. Or if that's not important please let me
know.
Asaf's visit thread in the mailing list is the shortest in ranking if I
compared to; the recent SA visit whose emails came in like it was a live
chat , the WTN thread (do you even know it exists?),the Mombasa pilot, the
Kakamega pilot and the Nyeri pilot were also 'well discussed'.
However, I would like to inform you and other members who did not attend
that the usual editting was done and probably in deeper detail.
* Chris n Sarah shall be looking for places and names in Nairobi then fill
in the targets at our WTN goals wiki -I bet they can only do this only if
they know how to edit wikipedia.
*Alex shall be filling in the scavenger hunt site with reference to the
populated Wiki.
* Oscar L. And I shall write Kiswahili stubs about places with non- existant
articles since members withdrew from swahili citing they are not quite
comfortable with swahili language. Do you know why Swahili and not English?
Oscar took the newbie who attended through the whole induction and be
informed he learnt very quickly and he has an article already. Let me lias
with him then I would probably forward you his wikipedia username, for
content moderation!
I am beginning to speculate there are volunteers who are more equal than
others!
In peace and Very truly,
stephen w. wanjau
Phone: +254 771 557 857
twitter:haha_wanjau
B.Sc statistics and computer science.
JKUAT
On Jun 26, 2011 11:33 AM, "Abbas Mahmood" <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I love the enthusiasm that JKUAT folks have. However, I hate to break it
down to you that WikiSaturday is (as far as I'm concerned) not aimed to
discuss matters pertaining WMKE but more importantly to teach members how to
edit.
I know that the matters in your agenda are paramount, but in the general
Wikimedia community, editing is a top priority:
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_Trends_Study. Sadly, editing was
not even explicitly mentioned in your agenda.I honestly do believe that
editing should be number 1 on your agenda, since less than a fifth of the
current members are Wikipedia editors.
Just a suggestion.
//abbas.
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:00:25 +0300
From: chriwaustin(a)gmail.com
To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wiki-Saturday Minutes
Hallo everyone,
These are the minutes for the Wiki-Saturday session that we held today on
25th of ...
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Hallo everyone,
These are the minutes for the Wiki-Saturday session that we held today on
25th of June 2011 at Jomo Kenyatta University of Agriculture and Technology
main campus, Juja.
*In attendance* today were:
- Stephen (Chairperson)
- Chris (Secretary)
- Oscar
- Alex
- Sarah
- Lillian
Our *guest* was
- Edwin
Top on the *Agenda* we had,
1. The Wikipedia takes Nairobi Challenge
2. Asaf's visit
3. The AoA and MoA of the Chapter's incorporation
4. The next Wiki-Saturday
5. Others
*Minutes*
1. The meeting began at 11:00am at the JKUAT's Assembly Hall Foyer.
2. We discussed at length on the current status of the challenge. So far
the areas/ locations / places to be photographed are being populated. This
has been through the efforts of Alex, Oscar and Steve. We all got to learn
how to populate the meta. However, it came to our concern that some
buildings or locations of interest had no articles written about them both
in the English and Swahili Wikipedia. But we decided to create stubs under
the Swahili Wikipedia and link them to the sites of interest. This way we'll
have more articles up in the Wiki and still have more commons up after the
challenge.
- Efforts have also been put to try and get a sponsor for the
challenge (Samsung) as well as support and authorization from
the ICT board.
This have also been fast tracked by Alex.
- It has come to our concern that some articles edited on the English
Wikipedia are being deleted without sufficient reason being
provided. So it
would be quite important for someone to elaborate further on
what is going
on or on what is not being done correctly by the editors.
- Points for the challenge are going to be awarded according to the
location of the point of interest. For instance, CBD will be ten points,
Westlands 15points, Lang'ata 20 points, Ngong' 25points, Dandora 30points
and so on.
3. As you all know, Asaf's visit is coming up in like a months time.
Its very important we start planning on his accommodation and schedule of
activities ASAP. So we proposed Alex to to help oversee this since he has
severally hosted visitors under Mozilla hence has the best ideas on how we
can go about this.
4. We suggested that we should have more members look into the drafts
articles and memorandum of association and propose the desired changes on
the wiki. We need to increase the speed at which we are dealing with the
incorporation issue for us to have clear cut responsibilities and duties
for everyone in the Chapter. This will be for our own long term and short
term good.
- The responsibilities of the board members are not clear yet especially
that of the project manager. So lets try and put our suggestions up as
quickly as possible on the wiki.
5. The next Wiki - Saturday should be organized by our members from
the Strathmore University. This should be held either on Saturday the 16th
or 23rd of July 2011. Lets all try to attend these sessions as they really
boost our team spirit and gets to open us up even more. We still insisted
that even though the mailing list is a reliable tool for our communication,
it is still not enough. So lets show up for the Wiki-Saturdays for our own
improvements.
6. Meeting was adjourned at 3:30pm East African Time and a tour of the
JKUAT environs commenced immediately for our guest.
Thank you all for your participation in making this event a success. On
behalf of the hosts, I would like to say it was a pleasure hosting this
Wiki-Saturdays session. Thank you and be blessed.
N/B Participants please feel free to make your additions in case you note an
omission.
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Thanks :-)
It's already a while a go, but yesterday was its anniversary.
Manuel Schneider
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Von: "Abbas Mahmood" <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com>
An: "The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter." <wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Betreff: [Wikimedia Kenya] www.wikimedia.or.ke
Datum: So., Jun. 26, 2011 03:37
Congratulations on getting married. :-)
> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:16:11 +0200
> From: manuel.schneider(a)wikimedia.ch
> To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] www.wikimedia.or.ke
>
> Dear all,
>
> Am 25.06.2011 15:10, schrieb Abbas Mahmood:
> > Is there something wrong with the WMKE website, or is it just me? I'm getting an error message every time I open it.
>
> I am sorry, for the first time since months I did not work today and
> spend my wedding day instead with my wife on a big tour in the Alps
> through Switzerland and Italy. As reliable as Murphy always is (see
> "Murphy's Law") the server crashed just after we left and I was not on
> the computer for the whole day.
>
> Fortunately it was only the webserver that hung up, so I could just
> restart it. As the Wikimedia stuff is hosted with on my private
> webserver (I don't have the means to buy another webserver just for fun)
> this machine is not redundant as the normal (paid) customer servers are.
>
> So please apologize for the downtime!
>
>
>
> /Manuel
> --
> Regards
> Manuel Schneider
>
> Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens
> Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge
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Think so too. We tried accessing it at wikisaturday but unsuccessful.
Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Is there something wrong with the WMKE website, or is it just me? I'm getting an error message every time I open it.
>//abbas.
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av tried accessing the website too....something is definetely wrong with it ;(
Alex Wafula <xelawafs(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>Yah, something's up with it...
>
>Alex.
>
>On Sat Jun 25th, 2011 6:10 AM PDT Abbas Mahmood wrote:
>
>>
>>Is there something wrong with the WMKE website, or is it just me? I'm getting an error message every time I open it.
>>//abbas.
>
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