Hi Delphine, Thanks for being honest with us. We shall review the bylaws and resubmit them to ChapCom. Cheers, Abbas. > Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:15:40 +0100 > From: notafishz(a)gmail.com > To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] : Need for a structure > > Hi Abbas, > > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Abbas Mahmoud <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi Manuel, > > > > We have already submitted the bylaws to ChapCom and are awaiting > > their > > approval. I greatly appreciate ChapCom's advice, especially from > > Lodewijk > > and Delphine. Sometimes back in December, i asked Lodewijk about when > > we > > should expect to be approved. He told me that we should have a look > > at > > the > > draft bylaws and seal all the remaining loopholes and submit a final > > draft > > and hopefully ChapCom would give their approval probably 2weeks > > later. > > I must say that I read this and was "ooops!, I've missed a step", as i > didn't recall any request for bylaws approval sent to the chapcom in > the past few weeks for Wikimedia Kenya. > > So I looked back on the history of our exchanges and came to the > following timeline: > * July 2010, Abbas sends us the byalws to get approved > * after which he and I have a quite long conversation about whether or > not to start with founding the chapter or maybe start getting into the > nick of things and organize wikipedia centered > events/happenings/projects. > * You all pull together the Wikipedia at School project, which is > officially launched a few days ago > *along with Ting's and other WMF people visit. > > I have to say that between July and now, I personally had completely > forgotten that there was a "pending approval" of bylaws. > > As such, I first want to apologize for this misunderstanding, because > in my mind's eye, the chapter idea was put on hold until more people > were found and active supporters gained to the cause of a chapter. > > So to be fair, chapcom has not reviewed the bylaws at all. So it's not > like we're taking our time, we just weren't that clearly aware that > the bylaws were awaiting approval. > > > At that time, we were all engaged in making preparations for Ting's > > arrival, > > the Wikipedia 10 Anniversary & the Wikipedia Schools Project so I > > really > > didn't prioritize reviewing the bylaws. Since we've relieved most of > > our > > burden now, I guess it's now time to review and make the final > > touches > > in > > the bylaws and we'll hopefully submit a final draft to ChapCom by 1st > > February. > > > Anyway, my mistake, how do we get forward? Well, your outline above > makes perfect sense. So here goes: > > *Your group reviews the bylaws that are on meta, to see if they still > suit your needs/wishes > *You fill the little "questionnaire" Chapcom put together to give us > something of an "identity card" of what the active people is all about > [1] > * Once you all agree on the final version of the bylaws, you > (re)submit to chapcom and we will look at them and go through the > discussion process. > > I just want to make sure that the bylaws submission reflects the > people involved today, and make sure that founding a chapter is really > the goal you want to pursue as a group and not some proposal that once > was and that we're pulling out of our drawers for convenience. > > I am really looking forward to working with you all and hoping we can > get Wikimedia Kenya on tracks as soon as possible. :) I want to > apologize if you had been under the impression the chapcom was not > doing its job... we were not, but because we didn't really consciously > know we had a job to do. :D > > Best, > > Delphine > [1] > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_committee/Pipeline/Follow-up_questi… > (fill it on the meta page for Wikimedia Kenya, for example, or on a > subpage of the same. > > > > -- > @notafish > > NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will > get > lost. > Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - > http://blog.notanendive.org > Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org > > _______________________________________________ > WikimediaKE mailing list > WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake