Thanks all for the thoughtful discussion and the
translation assistance.
More are obviously welcome.
Yours,
Chris Koerner
Community Liaison
Wikimedia Foundation
On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Philippe Verdy <verdy_p(a)wanadoo.fr>
wrote:
PDF format is not necessarily available on all
mobiles. PDF readers tend
to use themselves too much space and requires frequent updates, or
frequently contain too many ads (some of them even require to have an
Internet connection before using them, as they want to share what you
download and extensive profiling data for who is reading documents that
these apps actually did not create, and then insert targetted ads related
to the PDF contents.
If one wants really mobility (i.e. offline reading) there are better
formats that are less intrusive, and whose readers are both safer, with
much less unnecessariy plugins such as online form editors or cloud
printing or reshares on social networks.
"ebooks" formats (or core HTML, not requiring active scripts and online
APIs, or even TXT) are usually better suited for mobility: they have the
advantage of being suitable for all screen sizes (not the case of PDFs
whose page layout is static, and that requires constant zooming, and
horizontal panning to read them on most smartphones: a PDF is only suitable
on smartphones for a single page (letter or A4 max). Even MS Office .doc[x]
are easier to use on smartphones (there's a free viewer for it, and it's
really small, faster and much more secure than most PDF readers, including
the Reader made by Adobe, and which is still not workiong correctly on many
smartphones as they require excessive privileges or frequently depend on
tricky/unsupported/unstable APIs of the mobile OS, or are supproted only on
the most recent versions of these OSes; Adobe Reader for smartphones is
also too frequently targetted by third party apps that want to modify its
behavior by adding their own hooks that Adobe Reader uses without any
question)!
I don't have any PDF reader on my smartphone. I have only the old one
that was preinstalled but that I have blocked completely (againsst all
updates and all its autostarted services). If I need a PDF, I'll download
and read it on my PC, or I'll save it to Google Drive and Google will
render it and allow me to view it without activating many services and
third-party plugins. This is rare: I do that only to view some billing or
purchase order, but I won't store any PDF on my smartphone.
MediaWiki should better support the exports as eBooks formats, but the
PDF format is the worst one for mobiles, including in terms of
accessibility.
2017-11-16 13:10 GMT+01:00 Sylvain Chiron <chironsylvain(a)orange.fr>fr>:
From my point of view, ‘PDF’ is an important
piece of the title which
should really appear in the translation, but you might know what you’re
doing. ‘Print to PDF’ can actually be translated like ‘output as pdf’
(or even ‘get as pdf’ here) which is the best for French.
Regards,
Sylvain Chiron
Translator for French
Le 16/11/2017 à 00:04, Anoop Rao a écrit :
> Done Kannada language
>
> I have changed title ( *New print to pdf feature for mobile web
> readers* ) in translation as (new print feature for mobile web
readers)
> thinking it would be suitable, since when translated your title might
> also mean :: new/secondary print version to PDF feature for mobile web
> readers ::
>
>
> On 16-Nov-2017 3:55 am, "Chris Koerner" <ckoerner(a)wikimedia.org
> <mailto:ckoerner@wikimedia.org>> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> The Readers team at the foundation has created an easier way to
> download pdfs of articles from a mobile device. We would like to
> tell people about this. Offline PDFs are helpful when Internet
> access is not consistent. Please help translate this message.
>
>
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:CKoerner_(WMF)/Mobile_PDF
> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:CKoerner_(WMF)/Mobile_PDF>
>
> Thank you for your help!
>
> Yours,
> Chris Koerner
> Community Liaison
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
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