Basically there are not many good proofreaders available in the publishing industry - and the demand is high. That was the main reason for starting this course. Wikipedia is an important source for information. However, the concern here is about correct use of language too. Today we see a lot many errors in Gujarati newspapers, publishing, media and almost everywhere. That is a high concern for us. If Wiki is going to be an important tool for the next generation, we Have to make sure that it conveys correct language to the society. I would like to know, whether any auto-correction of spelling etc. are available while editing an article in Wiki ? Thank you. Roopal On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Kartik Mistry <kartik.mistry(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

Dear Roopalben, I second your concern regarding the correct language. I often say that Newspapers are the only LITERATURE most of us end up reading and have access to. The language and (more becoming common Hindi) words used in them shapes the language of society in present day and hence it is great that you are introducing this course. Unfortunately, on wiki we don't have spelling correction tool or dictionary lookup facility. But, Vishal Monpara has been developing one. Gujarati Lexicon has recently developed pop-up dictionary as well, which could be adapted for this purpose. On gu.wikipedia, there is a lot of content translated from either English or Hindi, and most of these lack the original Gujarati language. When read, these translations look so artificial. For the course, it could be good idea to show such examples and get the course attendees correct it, may be offline if they are not computer savvy or hesitant to use wikipedia. Please let me and community here know if you have any suggestions on how we can help with the task you are carrying out. Kind Regards, Dhaval On 18 Sep 2013 06:39, "Roopal Mehta" <roopal.mehta(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Excellent Idea Rajeshbhai, Let us pursue it. I will be happy to volunteer and pitch in wherever I can. I have seen most of people committing mistakes on અનુસ્વાર અને ણ. આપણું ને બદલે આપડુ જેવી ભૂલો. જો કે ગુજરાતીમાં ઘણા શબ્દોમાં જોડણી બદલાતા અર્થ પણ બદલાતો હોય છે, ઉત્કૃષ્ટ ઉદાહરણ, પાણી અને પાણિ, જેનું પણ પ્રુફરિડર્સે ધ્યાન રાખવું રહે. પણ એક સારી અને વિસ્તૃત ડિક્શનરીની મદદથી કામ ઘણું સહેલું થઈ શકે છે. Dhaval S. Vyas Tel: +44 (0) 20 7017 8436 Mail Drop: CGC-12-51 From: wikipedia-gu-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikipedia-gu-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rajesh Mashruwala Sent: 18 September 2013 12:12 To: Dhaval S. Vyas; Bakul Shah Cc: Wikipedia Gujarati Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-gu] Proof reading Dhavalbhai, As we get text that is generated using OCR, I see need for a good Gujarati dictionary. I tried to use GL dictionary. It was not effective because it has corpus of words. It can not recognize any variation on the word. In that model, we need possibly over ten times the corpus GL dictionary has to be useful. Otherwise, it finds error with too many correct words. The same dictionary could be used for Gujarati proof readers. One way is to generate larger corpus by scrapping words from Gujarati Internet pages (those in Unicode), a better way is to think about building better dictionary logic. I may be able to interest exceptionally good volunteer developers if we can think of smarter way of creating a dictionary. For example, we could codify grammar rules to form derivative words. Should we pursue this course? Sent from the old new iPad! On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:48 AM, "Dhaval S. Vyas" <dsvyas@gmail.com<mailto:dsvyas@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Roopalben, I second your concern regarding the correct language. I often say that Newspapers are the only LITERATURE most of us end up reading and have access to. The language and (more becoming common Hindi) words used in them shapes the language of society in present day and hence it is great that you are introducing this course. Unfortunately, on wiki we don't have spelling correction tool or dictionary lookup facility. But, Vishal Monpara has been developing one. Gujarati Lexicon has recently developed pop-up dictionary as well, which could be adapted for this purpose. On gu.wikipedia, there is a lot of content translated from either English or Hindi, and most of these lack the original Gujarati language. When read, these translations look so artificial. For the course, it could be good idea to show such examples and get the course attendees correct it, may be offline if they are not computer savvy or hesitant to use wikipedia. Please let me and community here know if you have any suggestions on how we can help with the task you are carrying out. Kind Regards, Dhaval On 18 Sep 2013 06:39, "Roopal Mehta" <roopal.mehta@gmail.com<mailto:roopal.mehta@gmail.com>> wrote: Basically there are not many good proofreaders available in the publishing industry - and the demand is high. That was the main reason for starting this course. Wikipedia is an important source for information. However, the concern here is about correct use of language too. Today we see a lot many errors in Gujarati newspapers, publishing, media and almost everywhere. That is a high concern for us. If Wiki is going to be an important tool for the next generation, we Have to make sure that it conveys correct language to the society. I would like to know, whether any auto-correction of spelling etc. are available while editing an article in Wiki ? Thank you. Roopal On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Kartik Mistry <kartik.mistry@gmail.com<mailto:kartik.mistry@gmail.com>> wrote: On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Roopal Mehta <roopal.mehta@gmail.com<mailto:roopal.mehta@gmail.com>> wrote: Few suggestions (some may be offtopic, sorry for that!) 1. Please follow Wikipedia's guideline for article. 2. Make sure person is logged in before making changes. 3. Please do not change anything other than spelling/grammar etc. 4. If you're that already, donating pictures of 'સાહિત્યકાર' in various articles from GSP, is good idea. Isn't it? :) Thanks for good work! -- Kartik Mistry | IRC: kart_ {0x1f1f, kartikm}.wordpress.com<http://wordpress.com> _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-gu mailing list Wikipedia-gu@lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:Wikipedia-gu@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-gu _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-gu mailing list Wikipedia-gu@lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:Wikipedia-gu@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-gu _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-gu mailing list Wikipedia-gu@lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:Wikipedia-gu@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-gu

I will send you some later tonight from home, Rupalben! On 20 Sep 2013 16:45, "Roopal Mehta" &lt;roopal.mehta(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

આભાર, ધવલભાઈ. I will get back by next weekend, after the sessions are over. Thanks so much. Roopal On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Dhaval S. Vyas &lt;dsvyas(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: