Re: [Wikipedia-gu] [Wikimediaindia-l] Rush to spend money (earlier:Project tiger consultation community 2019)

Hello, The meetup and workshop will take place on 23-24 February 2019 at Ahmedabad https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gujarati_Wikisource_Workshop,_Ahmedabad After the Indian Wikisource Consultation Gujarati Wikisource community members are interested in this workshop. I believe this workshop and the meetup will be helpful for them. We'll make sure to follow-up this event with future plan(s). Thanks Tito Dutta Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to remind me over email or phone call. On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 19:51, Tito Dutta &lt;trulytito(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > Hello Dhaval, > Thank you for your reply. > I confirm that I do not have any information about the cancellation of > the upcoming workshop in Gujarat. However this is true that we have to > ensure that necessary groundwork and needs assessment are done properly and > that is the message I conveyed to my team. I have asked my team members to > check this and get back to me and the mailing list as soon as possible. In > the last email I told that we would get back in 3 days/72 hours. > In case the community feels or we feel that the event needs more time > to prepare we may postpone it, but as of now we have not reached any > decision. I hope that makes things clear. > You brought up an excellent point we are really thankful for that. If > you have suggestions or idea about conducting or improving this workshop > please let us know either over the email thread or personally. We hope to > get back soon with more information. > (Sent using mobile, kindly excuse brevity and typos) > > On Sat, Feb 16, 2019, 7:34 PM Dhaval S. Vyas &lt;dsvyas(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > >> Thank you Tito for your quick reply yesterday. >> >> Meanwhile it gas been brought to my notice that due to my this >> question, Wikisource meetup has now been cancelled/postponed. >> >> I am saddened to know that my concern raised here in general with >> mere example of 2 events has been used as a shield to take a decision on >> the event that was "still in planning stage". If the decision to cancel the >> event was due to the interpretation of my concern as "no support from >> community", it is very unfortunate. >> >> I never said or indicated that I do nit support the initiative. >> Please point me to the statement where you or anybody got that indication. >> >> This whole episode makes me think whether the Project Tiger >> Consultation is also being cancelled due to its mention in the same email >> by me. >> >> In either case, if you decided to cancel the Ahmedabad solely because >> of me, I should have been informed or at least consulted before taking such >> a huge decision and communicating to the community. This has only created >> rift in a very small community of Gujarati Wikimedians and nothing else. >> >> Thank you, >> Dhaval Sudhanva Vyas >> >> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019, 11:14 Tito Dutta &lt;trulytito(a)gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Hello Dhaval, >>> Thank you for your email and your suggestions. >>> >>> There seem to be 2 questions here: >>> 1) Project Tiger Community Consultation: and 2) Gujarati Wikisource >>> community consultation. >>> >>> I'll try to answer your questions. >>> 1) Project Tiger Community Consultation: You know Project Tiger (PT) >>> community consultation 1.0 ended some time ago, and you may also know from >>> Wikimedia Foundation/Google or from some other social media post that the >>> next iteration of Project may be started sometime this year, probably in a >>> few months. >>> The consulltation is planned as a colcluding event of Project Tiger >>> 1.0 with an objective of gathering feedback, experiences (may be in form of >>> presentations), meet and greet PT contributors, brainstorming etc. The >>> planning part started early, in the beginning of January, and at that same >>> time we talked to WMF PT team, and who discussed with Google. We are doing >>> ground-work on this. We'd like to conduct this event in a good way. >>> >>> 2) Gujarati community Wikisource meetup: The event is in planning >>> stage. I remember it being discussed by Gujarati community members over >>> email, and I know some community members are working on this. >>> I need a little time to check. I'll check this and get back to you >>> in next 72 hours/3 days (maximum). >>> >>> I once again thank you for your email and suggestions. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> Tito Dutta >>> Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to >>> remind me over email or phone call. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 14:51, Dhaval S. Vyas &lt;dsvyas(a)gmail.com&gt; >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> Don't know whether it is only me, does anybody else here also feels >>>> that there is a rush in somehow spend money, or should I say blow up money, >>>> or rather "meet the target spend"? >>>> >>>> For example this consultation is being planned, there is a >>>> Wikisource meet in Ahmedabad being planned, all at very short notice and >>>> without any substantial groundwork. Any consultation or meet needs a >>>> planning of at least a couple of months, especially if you're targeting pan >>>> India participation. Booking train/flight tickets with just 2-3 weeks >>>> notice will not be expensive? >>>> >>>> Could these things not be organised later in the year giving more >>>> time to the communities to consult and organisers to prepare themselves? Or >>>> is it just because there is a 31st March deadline to utilise the budget >>>> which remained unspent till date? >>>> >>>> If we do the so called Gujarati Wikisource Meet aka Workshop in 2 >>>> weeks, what level of participation are we expecting? What is the expected >>>> outcome? >>>> >>>> At least these 2 things certainly make me think that there is sone >>>> Rush in spending money. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Dhaval Sudhanva Vyas >>>> >>>> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019, 08:54 Rajeeb Dutta &lt;marajozkee(a)gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Gopala, >>>>> I really admire this initiative though doesn’t understand the >>>>> criteria of how you people are selecting 20 participants? and some of >>>>> extent agrees with Abhinav of inviting the subsequent participant >>>>> by the order of rank or inviting some senior community members as it will >>>>> be helpful for community consultation program. >>>>> >>>>> Hoping a successful event and feeling pride to be a contributor >>>>> for the same. >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards, >>>>> Rajeeb Dutta. >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 15-Feb-2019, at 1:05 PM, Abhinav srivastava < >>>>> abhinav619(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello Gopal, >>>>> >>>>> The final result of the Project Tiger has a highly volatile >>>>> result, some communities have done remarkably well in terms of metrics >>>>> while some haven’t. The idea of giving preference to women participants is >>>>> a welcome step. >>>>> >>>>> However, why the idea of inviting jury? The role of jury in this >>>>> exercise was narrow, limited and not even inviting any hard decisions. It >>>>> is my personal observation that inviting the subsequent participant by the >>>>> order of rank or inviting some senior community member with community >>>>> consensus could be a better idea. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps, the jury who worked on computer and internet scholarship >>>>> could be invited. >>>>> >>>>> Abhinav >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, 15 February 2019, Gopala Krishna A < >>>>> gopala(a)cis-india.org&gt; wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> I would like to give an update regarding this. In this event we >>>>>> are expecting total 20 participants. So far only 10 people confirmed their >>>>>> participation. >>>>>> From each community we are inviting two participants. Those two >>>>>> participants are the top three performers (Indians Wikipedians) of Project >>>>>> tiger edit-a-thon 2018. We are planning to invite jury members where ever >>>>>> top contributors of the highest performed language can not attend. Also, we >>>>>> are giving preference to women participants. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 12:13 PM Gopala Krishna A < >>>>>> bhat.gka666(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Mourya, >>>>>>> Yes. We invited active participants (Indians) of Project Tiger >>>>>>> Edit-a-thon 2018 from all participated communities. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 10:05 PM Mourya Biswas < >>>>>>> mourya.biswas(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you very much. I hope some of the active participants >>>>>>>> from the last year's editathon, of Bengali community will be invited. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Warmest regards >>>>>>>> *Mourya Biswas* "*মৌর্য্য বিশ্বাস*" >>>>>>>> Phone: +91-8184877240 >>>>>>>> *Wikimedia* *address *: >>>>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Mouryan >>>>>>>> *Twitter* : @themouryan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 13:46, Tito Dutta &lt;trulytito(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>> Greetings from CIS-A2K team, We're planning to conduct a >>>>>>>>> community consultation program for Project Tiger. The >>>>>>>>> objectives of this consultation program are: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Revisiting the Project Tiger 2018; Strength and >>>>>>>>> Challenges >>>>>>>>> - Discussion on the coming iteration of Project Tiger. >>>>>>>>> - Project Tiger contributors meet & greet. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The event will take place on 2-3 March 2019, and the event >>>>>>>>> place will be announced shortly. Please see the event page here: >>>>>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Project_Tiger_Community_Consultation >>>>>>>>> We will be inviting the participants from different Indian >>>>>>>>> community based on their contribution in the Project Tiger >>>>>>>>> 2018 edit-a-thon. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> Tito Dutta >>>>>>>>> Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel >>>>>>>>> free to remind me over email or phone call. >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>>>>>>> Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences >>>>>>>>> visit >>>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>>>>>> Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Gopala Krishna A >>>>>>> Community Advocate, CIS-A2K >>>>>>> Contact : +918884244408 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Gopala Krishna A >>>>>> Community Advocate, CIS-A2K >>>>>> Contact : +918884244408 >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>>> Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>>> Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>> Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> > _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l