On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Alison Wheeler wrote:
On Thu, August 28, 2008 03:24, Chris McKenna wrote:
With all due respect I don't recall seeing
the answer to this question
(what information is required to be given by people who wish to stand for
positions on the board) on this list. Although Thomas is the most vocal
person, he is not necessarily the only one.
"Required" is as stated previously, as is "preferred/helpful".
You have said *when* you require the information by, and the reason you
require it (the law requires it, and anyway its good practice), but not
actually *what* is required. You have also said what it would be
"preferred/helpful" (notes about previous expiereince, involvement with
WMF/projects, why you want to stand, and anything else that you (the
person standing, or wishing to stand) thinks apropriate).
Nowhere have you acutally said what is legally required - my /guess/
is that Name, address, date of birth, and any other directorships you hold
are required. What about such things as any criminal record? NI number?
previous addresses? bank details? passport details? Signature? Details
and/or proof of any academic qualifications? A satement that you agree to
the WMF passing on your details to Companies House (and any other place
they are legally obliged to) if you get elected? Employment or
unemployment details?
If this is all detialed somewhere online, point us there rather than
saying it has been answered previously when it hasn't been previously
answered on this list (given that this is where the question was asked,
it is reasonable to assume that this is where the answer will/would be
given, unless explicitly mentioned otherwise)..
Nor do I
recall seeing an answer, on this list, about whether sending the
information by email is sufficient? Iif so, should this be sent to you
personally, or to a different email address?.
Everything (MoA, AoA, website, list posts) has made it clear that
everything is done by electronic means where ever possible.
Thank you, although answering "yes, email is fine" to the original equiry
would have save a lot of bother. Not everybody here is familiar with
company law, and it is reasonable to query whether applications for
directorship are one occasion where doing it electronically is not
possible. After all simple membership is not.
Presumably then these can be emailed to you (or another director?)
personally?
If sending
something by post
is required, where should this be sent - the only postal address I can
spot on the WMUK website is the one on the membership application form
(i.e. London N6)? (I understand that if it is the private address of a
director they may not want this on the public email list, if this is the
case please let us know how people wishing to send things to this address
may find it)
There is a public address on the forms which can be used for postal mail.
This is slightly moot now you've answered that email is fine, but I am not
aware of any forms on the WMUK site for people who wish to stand as a
director. If there were, I would guess that by now you would have answered
one of these many questions with 'there is a form on the WMUK website
which has all the details you need'. As you haven't, it would appear there
isn't one I'm overlooking. As clever as we all are on this list, I don't
believe any of us can read the address on a form that doesn't exist.
Yes, there is such an address on the /membership/ form, but this is not a
form for wishing to stand as a director. It may or may not have been the
same address as the membership form states, hence I asked the question
(which you still haven't answered definitively).
Finally, could you confirm that the London N6
address is still the correct
address to send membership requests to.
Yes; again it is printed on the forms so that people have it directly in
front of them! Should the address change (as it has once in the past) the
forms get changed.
Thank you, as this question was about the membership forms, that do exist,
(unlike the forms you refer to in the previous answer) you have now
answered this question defnitively. I don't understand why you didn't
answer Thomas when he first asked getting on for a month ago?
While it is good to know that these forms will be kept up-to-date, the
fact that other parts of the WMUK website (e.g. the fact that guarantor
membership is available to non-supporting members) and information related
to WMUK elsewhere (as has been discussed at length) has /not/ been kept up
to date, means it was necessary to ask the quesiton.
In all these email messages asking various questions of you in particular
Alison, and of the WMUK more generally (not just my previous email), there
are some things that are clearly not known, outside your control and
others that you cannot publicly give a (straight) answer to. I acceept
this, although it would be far nicer to be given the answer "I'm sorry I
don't know" or "I can't publicly give you an answer to this at the
moment,
due to blah" rather than a political non-answer written in what comes
accross as a very confrontational tone on many occasions.
Additionally, it is particularly unimpressive and insulting to be given
such a non-answer where there is clearly no need for one. It should not
a month of pushing to get the answers like "yes, the address on the
membership form is correct" and "prospective directors may send in their
details electronically".
It is from responses such as these that lead to the accusastions of being
obtuse.
Chris
--
Chris McKenna
cmckenna(a)sucs.org
www.sucs.org/~cmckenna
The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes,
but with the heart
Antoine de Saint Exupery