hey gautham, at the outset it sounds like a cool policy. but every country has its own
concerns which are diverse and sometimes mutually contrary. Wiki is a global project and
if it does not understand the local concerns it would soon end up a tool of oppression at
the hands of those who have access to it to the detriment of those who dont.
In India, for millenia a brahmanical thought uses sanskrit to stunt the growth of rest of
the human race and after people like Basava, Gandhi and Ambedkar when finally there is
social justice, the inheritors of the same oppressors come and say we are equal? what
about the growth stunted by those millenia of oppression? Who will make good the
differential intellect among the classes? while no body can, it would extremely
insensitive to promote the very tools once used against a large part of community.
wiki has to recognise and be sensitive to these concerns.
Basavaraj N Itnal
--- On Sat, 2/26/11, Gautam John <gautam(a)prathambooks.org> wrote:
From: Gautam John <gautam(a)prathambooks.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-in-blr] [Wikimediaindia-l] ToI front page: Rs 1 cr for Sanskrit
WP
To: "Mailing list for Wikimedians / Wikipedians in & from Bangalore, India"
<wikimedia-in-blr(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 11:08 AM
Hi Basavarj:
Wikipedia's vision is "Imagine a world in which every
single human
being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That's
our
commitment."
All languages are part of that and while we may differ in
our opinions
we can, by the same flip of coin, respect our differences,
right?
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam
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On 26 February 2011 16:36, Basavaraj Itnal <basavarajitnal(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:
shrikanth, that is a wrong question you are asking.
right question is India
historically right in supporting a
language which was used by a particular class to treat
others like animals?
Basavaraj N Itnal
--- On Sat, 2/26/11, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <rsrikanth05(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
From: Srikanth Ramakrishnan <rsrikanth05(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-in-blr] [Wikimediaindia-l] ToI
front page: Rs 1 cr for
Sanskrit WP
To: "Mailing list for Wikimedians /
Wikipedians in
& from Bangalore, India"
<wikimedia-in-blr(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Cc: "Basavaraj Itnal"
<basavarajitnal(a)yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 11:03 AM
To Basavaraj,
WHY?
Your statement has no base.
As User:Arunram once told, there are several towns in
Karnataka whose population
speaks ONLY Sanskrit.
Are you referrring to just BIG cities?
What is the the basis of your statement?
How do you define Social Relevance?
-- Regards,
On 26 February 2011 15:10, Basavaraj Itnal <basavarajitnal(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:
I see no social relevence in having a Sanskrit wiki
and least of all govt
supporting it.
Basavaraj N Itnal
--- On Fri, 2/25/11, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
From: Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-in-blr] [Wikimediaindia-l] ToI
front page: Rs 1 cr for
Sanskrit WP
To: "Wikimedia India Community list"
<wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Cc: "Bangalore Wikimedia list" <Wikimedia-IN-BLR(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 9:10 AM
Hoi,
As the Sanskrit wikisource is waiting for its
creation, there is additional value
for them to cooperate
:). They do not need to buy into Wikipedia in order to be
happy with a source for sources.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 25 February 2011 07:04, CherianTinu Abraham <tinucherian(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Sanskrit Bharathi volunteers were generally keen on
our Sanskrit Wikipedia.
Arunram and others have conducted
Wiki academies for them. Probably good idea to take them
more into confidence with our movement.
While Kerala & TN governments have chosen to
go
with the Wikipedia, it is sad that Karnataka government is
always trying to reinvent the wheel. May be we are not
reaching out with them properly.
It may be a good idea to set up a Chapter task
force
for government liaisons and policy making, which includes
those folks who have done these kind of stuff successfully
more than those who have contacts.
Regards
Tinu Cherian
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Naveen B M <naveenbm(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
appears this is a grant to Sanskrit Bharathi
>>> 182. To develop Sanskrit Wikipedia,
Rs 1 crore would be provided
as a grant to Sanskrit
Bharathi.
Naveen
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Hari Prasad Nadig
<hpnadig(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Just checked with my sources in the government - and
what I hear is that the
allocated funds *isn't* for Sanskrit
Wikipedia, but a project "on the lines" of Sanskrit
Wikipedia, but perhaps with editing control.
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Prashanth NS <prashanth.ns(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Yea. I remember that announcement 2 years back and
then it got converted into an
internal project.
But, a good opportunity for advocacy here.
Perhaps
some chapter members should meet the department officials
and try and get co-opted into the decision-making process.
Often, it is lack of information and trust that scares them.
Unlike 2 years, back with the chapter in place and most of
us quite well networked, we should get involved closely and
see if we can get them to invest in improving the sanskrit
and kananda wikis.
The government usually prefers a project with editing
control rather than one
without any direct control over
content decisions made.
--
Hari Prasad Nadig
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