I have hence received one other disagreeing reply
from a board
member, but I assumed the result by agreeing by the points raised by
ML.
However, let's indeed wait for some further replies before concluding
this.
Best regards,
Mikael
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 10:24 PM, Jackie Koerner
<jackie.koerner(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Mikael,
Only one member of the Boards has thus far disagreed in this email
thread. Have there been others who have responded to you directly?
Best,
Jackie
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Researcher & Visiting Scholar
jackiekoerner.com [1]
On Aug 11, 2018, at 2:36 PM, Mikael Häggström
<editor.in.chief(a)wikijmed.org> wrote:
Very well, so it seems we won't add this to next year's grant
proposal. I'm still keeping it in mind as a last resort if the
administrative backlogs are further increasing, but I also hope
that the alternative of having a hired associate editor will
decrease the burden significantly anyways.
I also forward a response from Diptanshu on this matter.
Best regards,
Mikael
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Dr. Diptanshu Das
<das.diptanshu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mikael
I strongly oppose your proposal of such a compensation. Thanks
Michael for already having put the salient points prior to me.
WikiJournal is not just another journal system the expenses of which
are borne by Wikimedia Foundation. We are more. We are built on
the principles of Wikipedia. Those who do not have any association
with the free knowledge movement or who are not associated with such
collaborative contribution would simply not understand this. Our
objective should be to attract candidates who are not familiar with
the free knowledge movement. So, I assume that being a volunteer
is a pre-requisite. Michael is right in pointing out that if we
cannot make the project run on volunteers, perhaps we need to
reconsider the model.
I need to mention that over the last several years the sister
project affiliation committee has not approved a single sister
project (barring Wikidata which was approved entirely on different
grounds) because the projects have not proved themselves fit to be
run by volunteers alone and that granting Wikiversity the status of
sister project has been considered one of the biggest blunders of
the WMF.
Please forward this email to the respective boards of which I am
not a member.
Regards
Diptanshu
Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to.
On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 at 13:22, Michaël Laurent
<michael.laurent(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Personally I disagree. There are numerous projects within the
Wikimedia foundation and most of them rely on volunteers. If we
cannot expand it to a critical mass without throwing money at it
perhaps we should first reconsider the model.
Again I propose to look at some of the Frontiers journals. They
have a huge board of reviewers facilitating peer review. Perhaps we
should invite more editors too.
BW ML
Op vr 10 aug. 2018 22:54 schreef Jackie Koerner
<jackie.koerner(a)gmail.com>om>:
I think this is a very reasonable proposal. I do think this should
be discussed annually in case we need to adjust to be a more
appropriate amount. This would be, say as workload and demands
increase, or as budget overall increases, the stipend might be
adjusted.
Best,
Jackie
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Jackie Koerner, Ph.D.
Researcher & Visiting Scholar
jackiekoerner.com [1]
On Aug 10, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Mikael Häggström
<editor.in.chief(a)wikijmed.org> wrote:
Hello again,
I have informed the board at WikiJMed that I would prefer to see
someone with more time than me to be the editor-in-chief when my term
ends by New Year, and the Assistant editor-in-chief has expressed a
similar attitude to it. Yet, the only other candidate to the
editor-in-chief position has also expressed reluctance to it. For
the long term survival of the journals I think we need to add a
monetary compensation to editor-in-chiefs, and practically also to
add an incentive to apply to this position.
I think an annual compensation of let's say $2000 for each
editor-in-chief and $1000 for each assistant would be a humble start
as part of the grant application for next year, especially
considering that average salaries for editors-in-chief in the US
are about $85.000 (link [2]) and $57.000 for assistants (link) [3].
Also, it is very humble comparing to the generally $100.000+ that
many people make within Wikimedia Foundation (link [4]), and the
income of $91 million that Wikimedia Foundation received in 2017
(link) [5]. Thus, we can definitely adjust this amount further in
the future depending on the success of this grant application.
Best regards,
Mikael
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