Having the same name is not a huge issue. For example
there are three
medical journals called "Open Medicine" (one in Canada, one in Europe, and
one in the Arabic peninsula). There are also more than a dozen cities
called London
J
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Mikael Häggström <
editor.in.chief(a)wikijmed.org> wrote:
I appreciate your views. As for the Wikimedia
Journal name, we did have a
name vote a while ago to choose the current name, and that one was among
the candidates (but only received a few votes):
https://en.wikiversity
.org/wiki/WikiJournal/Future_as_separate_Wikimedia_project#Name_election
I don't find the co-existence of Philip's
wikijournal.org to exclude our
usage of the WikiJournal name. Also, as I understand, his project is a more
inclusionist
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deletionism_and_inclusionism_in_Wikipedia> wiki
than Wikipedia, and supported by AdSense
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdSense> ads in the articles since his
goal is also to make it profitable. I actually doubt he will continue that
project in the long run. I think he bought the
wikijournal.org for a
couple of hundred dollars, so in this year's grant application (link to
that of last year
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/WikiJournal_of_Medicine>
) I think we can also apply for a single addition of perhaps about $300
to offer him for the domain, which I think he is likely to eventually take.
Although he has invested considerable time developing his project, his
project design is indeed different from our own visions, so I don't see any
other aspect of
wikijournal.org that we should use apart from the domain
name. Nevertheless, I think we may also offer him credit as "creator of the
wikijournal.org domain" at our Milestones.
<https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/WikiJournal_of_Medicine/About#Milestones>
In any case, I think we will get hold of the
wikijournal.org domain
before becoming a separate Wikimedia project.
Although WikiJournal of Medicine is a registered non-profit organization,
the WikiJournal name is not yet registered as a trademark by anyone.
Perhaps we should add $200 to the next grant application to have the
trademark registered, and then have it recognized internationally through
the Madrid system. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrid_system>
Best regards,
Mikael
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:57 AM, Daniel Mietchen <
daniel.mietchen(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
Dear all,
I have not been privy to those past conversations but here are my
comments anyway:
- I am not thrilled about the name WikiJournal, given that
https://wikijournal.org/ exists and what it does.
- there is still room to sort out naming issues as long as we are not
formally organized
- there was a similar situation with Wikitravel, which resulted in the
name change to Wikivoyage
- another similar situation arose with WikiProject Med, which wanted
to be registered as "Wikimedia Medicine", but that was not OKed by WMF
- I am not sure having WikiJournal (under whatever name) as a
different sister project is the best way to move forward, and in any
case, it is not obvious to me how Philip could help with that other
than by contributing the domain.
- If it were to become a new sister project, why not just go for
something like
https://journal.wikimedia.org and perhaps "Wikimedia
Journal"?
- I think it makes sense to aim at becoming a thematic organization as
a next step, once the naming issue is sorted out
Cheers,
Daniel
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Gwinyai Masukume
<parturitions(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Diptanshu,
Several of us were not keen on Wikijournal because the name had
already been
used. I guess the naming issue is now water under
the bridge.
Kindest regards,
Gwinyai
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 3:08 AM, Diptanshu Das <
das.diptanshu(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> If you people remember, I had initially spoken against adaptation of
the
> name Wikijournal. It was because of the
confusion that entities like
>
https://en.wikijournal.org/wiki/WikiJournal may create. The
subsequent vote
> shifted toward WikiJournal and that is
perfectly ok but our by-laws
should
> clearly mention about this WikiJournal, the
Wiki Journal Club etc.
stating
> that these are independent and
un-affiliated.
>
> Regards
> Diptanshu
>
>
> Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to.
>
> On 25 February 2017 at 01:57, Mikael Häggström
> <editor.in.chief(a)wikijmed.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi WikiJournal participants!
>>
>> I had a talk with the domain owner of wikijournal.orgrecently, and
it is
>> possible to merge our projects if we
attain a WikiJournal/Future as
separate
>> Wikimedia project - see also talk entry
there at
>>
en.wikijournal.org/wiki/Talk:WikiJournal. I think the most
important next
>> step is to become a "thematic
organization", proving that we can
work as a
>> separate organization: I can start a
draft of bylaws soon.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Mikael
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