On Aug 11, 2018, at 2:36 PM, Mikael Häggström
<editor.in.chief(a)wikijmed.org> wrote:
Very well, so it seems we won't add this to next year's grant proposal. I'm
still keeping it in mind as a last resort if the administrative backlogs are further
increasing, but I also hope that the alternative of having a hired associate editor will
decrease the burden significantly anyways.
I also forward a response from Diptanshu on this matter.
Best regards,
Mikael
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Dr. Diptanshu
Das <das.diptanshu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mikael
I strongly oppose your proposal of such a compensation. Thanks Michael for already having
put the salient points prior to me. WikiJournal is not just another journal system the
expenses of which are borne by Wikimedia Foundation. We are more. We are built on the
principles of Wikipedia. Those who do not have any association with the free knowledge
movement or who are not associated with such collaborative contribution would simply not
understand this. Our objective should be to attract candidates who are not familiar with
the free knowledge movement. So, I assume that being a volunteer is a pre-requisite.
Michael is right in pointing out that if we cannot make the project run on volunteers,
perhaps we need to reconsider the model.
I need to mention that over the last several years the sister project affiliation
committee has not approved a single sister project (barring Wikidata which was approved
entirely on different grounds) because the projects have not proved themselves fit to be
run by volunteers alone and that granting Wikiversity the status of sister project has
been considered one of the biggest blunders of the WMF.
Please forward this email to the respective boards of which I am not a member.
Regards
Diptanshu
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> On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 at 13:22, Michaël Laurent <michael.laurent(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Personally I disagree. There are numerous projects within the Wikimedia foundation
and most of them rely on volunteers. If we cannot expand it to a critical mass without
throwing money at it perhaps we should first reconsider the model.
>
> Again I propose to look at some of the Frontiers journals. They have a huge board of
reviewers facilitating peer review. Perhaps we should invite more editors too.
>
> BW ML
>
> Op vr 10 aug. 2018 22:54 schreef Jackie Koerner <jackie.koerner(a)gmail.com>om>:
>> I think this is a very reasonable proposal. I do think this should be discussed
annually in case we need to adjust to be a more appropriate amount. This would be, say as
workload and demands increase, or as budget overall increases, the stipend might be
adjusted.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Jackie
>>
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>>> On Aug 10, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Mikael Häggström
<editor.in.chief(a)wikijmed.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello again,
>>>
>>> I have informed the board at WikiJMed that I would prefer to see someone with
more time than me to be the editor-in-chief when my term ends by New Year, and the
Assistant editor-in-chief has expressed a similar attitude to it. Yet, the only other
candidate to the editor-in-chief position has also expressed reluctance to it. For the
long term survival of the journals I think we need to add a monetary compensation to
editor-in-chiefs, and practically also to add an incentive to apply to this position.
>>>
>>> I think an annual compensation of let's say $2000 for each
editor-in-chief and $1000 for each assistant would be a humble start as part of the grant
application for next year, especially considering that average salaries for
editors-in-chief in the US are about $85.000 (link) and $57.000 for assistants (link).
Also, it is very humble comparing to the generally $100.000+ that many people make within
Wikimedia Foundation (link), and the income of $91 million that Wikimedia Foundation
received in 2017 (link). Thus, we can definitely adjust this amount further in the future
depending on the success of this grant application.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Mikael
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