[WikiEN-l] Improve AFD - require rationales (2-step process)

Sat Dec 10 20:18:25 UTC 2005

A lot of the poisonous feelings on AFD seems to come from sheep voting
and people voting without providing rationales. Perhaps we should
improve the debate-percentage and require people to provide
rationales.

I suggest a two step process:
1) The first 24 or 48 hours people submit rationales for or against deletion.
2) After that people can vote on which of these they support.
Similar to a finding of the facts.

This would make it easier to discount votes based on outdated or
incorrect reasons. "Article is too short" (after it was expanded), or
"unreferenced" (when acutally the link was temporarily down).

It would also make it easier to see at a glance whether it was deleted
for being non-notable, for missing references or for being in a
irredeemable state.

Mock Up Example:

===[[FakeBand]]===
====DELETE====
* Band yields only 12 Google hits; all on geocities, lycos and myspace
apart from official site which indicates they're not famous or having
an effect on the music industry. - [[User:Example1]]
**Support -- [[User:Example1]]
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* Band has no All Music Guide entry. (WP:MUSIC)  -- [[User:Example1]]
**Support -- [[User:Example1]]
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* Band has no albums on Amazon. (WP:MUSIC) -- [[User:Example1]]
**Support -- [[User:Example1]]
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* The listed albums are self-produced as admitted by creator. --
[[User:Example2]]
**Support -- [[User:Example1]]
**Support -- [[User:Example2]]

====KEEP====
* Band DOES have 3 albums. They're listed on the official site. We
just couldn't get them in the stores yet. (www.fakeband.com). --
[[User:ArticleCreator]]
**Support -- [[User:ArticleCreator]]