[WikiEN-l] [iris.steineck at aon.at: donation to ferdinand porsche? article is not available under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License.]

Tue Oct 28 18:25:38 UTC 2003

I've just looked at the [[Ferdinand Porsche]] article, and would offer 
the following opinions
    1.    Dr. Steineck would help her cause tremendously if she were a 
registered user.  Despite our ideals there is often a tendency to 
presume that anonymous users are wrong.
    2.     Dr. Steineck is an Austrian who's native language is 
presumably not English:  She has used "donation" where the rest of us 
would tend to use "contribution".  That's a perfectly understandable error.
    3.    The reference to GNU-FDL appears to be a red herring.  Nothing 
in the discussion seems to be about this.
    4.    The Ferdinand Porsche article is probably not the place to 
dispute Komenda's claims; the claims are against Ferdinand's son [[Ferry 
Porsche]] and it would be more appropriate in the article about the son.
    5.    Although it is appropriate to make a familial link between the 
father and son, making a disputed claim as part of the link invites 
problems in that it opens the disputed claim to discussion in a place 
where it doesn't belong.  This has been a big part of the problem in the 
recent [[Mother Teresa]] dispute.

I hope this helps
    Ec

Jimmy Wales wrote:

>I don't think this person's subject line makes any sense, but his
>content claims are surely worth an investigation.
>
>It looks from the history as though there's an ongoing edit war, and
>so probably more eyeballs would be helpful.
>
>----- Forwarded message from "Dr. Iris Steineck" <iris.steineck at aon.at> -----
>
>From: "Dr. Iris Steineck" <iris.steineck at aon.at>
>
>Subject: donation to ferdinand porsche? article is not available under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License.
>
>Dear Mr. Wales,
>
>My grandfather Erwin Komenda designed the VW-beetle and Porsche sport car
>type 356.
>
>I wrote this fact more than one times in the Wikipedia Ferdinand Porsche
>Article.
>
>	[[Ferdinand Porsche]]
>
>But every time I  wrote this facts in the wikipedia article - the new
>written text is cancelled immediately. I cant accept this fact. Because on
>the one hand Erwin Komenda developed the design of the famous cars and on
>the other this is no more a free encyclopaedia. So I wonder how this is
>possible. Have you got any donations for the Ferdinand Porsche article from
>Porsche or the Volkswagen-enterprise, what is wrong with that site?
>
>Best regards Iris Steineck
>
>----- End forwarded message -----
>