[Foundation-l] Arabic, a non native language

Mon Aug 11 21:22:54 UTC 2008

No, I merely stated that I *thought* you were missing the point.
Perhaps you are, perhaps you aren't, but you stated flatly that you
were not.

I don't think the point is worrying about Arabic in particular not
being able to have a Wikipedia, I think it's more of a theoretical
thing, that if Arabic hadn't had a Wikipedia, it wouldn't be able to
have one under these rules, and that this somehow invalidates the
rules because such a major language should be automatically approved
by our rules.

It's a sort of test for any language rules. Not ALL of our existing
languages must pass it, but some of course must - Chinese, English,
Arabic, Spanish, for example, we expect would be considered valid
languages under any reasonable criteria.

Mark

On 11/08/2008, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hoi,
> So it is for you to decide that I did not get the point, not having made
> that point in the first place ??
> Thanks,
>       GerardM
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's not for you to decide, when you're not the one who made the
>> point in the first place.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On 11/08/2008, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hoi,
>> > No I did not.
>> > Thanks,
>> >       GerardM
>> >
>> > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I think you've missed the point.
>> >>
>> >> Mark
>> >>
>> >> On 11/08/2008, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hoi.
>> >> > Given the current practice, this whole issue is irrelevant. There is
>> an
>> >> Arab
>> >> > project and this will continue to be the case.
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >     GerardM
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Crazy Lover <
>> >> always_yours.forever at yahoo.com
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Reviewing the requirements of current policy
>> >> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Language_proposal_policy
>> >> >> i thought in standard arabic language, and the inevitable
>> consecuense:
>> >> >> this
>> >> >> language cannot meet the requirement. Standard arabic isn't speak
>> >> anymore
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> first language. it's based in Religious arabic languages, it's
>> archaic,
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> it is neccesary to learn at school to understand it. its situation
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> similar to medieval latin. Then, the consecuense will be absurd: the
>> >> >> rejection of any new project in this useful language.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> on the other hand, there are several native languages, all daugthers
>> of
>> >> >> classical arabic, like Egyptian arabic (or Masri), whose
>> >> >> proposal has been approved
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Egyptian_Arabic
>> >> >> precissely for its native condition.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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