Hi Lodewijk,
Thanks for your questions and feedback. I would like to respond to some of
it already, but need a bit more time to answer the other parts.
* We have learned a lot from the experience of the last round of community
conversations and are indeed aiming for a more active, responsive approach
and for more actual conversations with those who engage.
* Please note that no response on Meta to a comment made in past
conversations does not mean that it was not considered. All comments have
been read and summarized, and many have been incorporated into the next
iterations.
* Please also note that depending on the availability of working group
members, some have engaged more than others with on-wiki comments, and some
have immediately modified their recommendations while others have taken
more time to review and incorporate. I can assure you that additional
effort was made between the writing group and liaisons to include further
input from the communities in the documents that we will share with you all
next week.
* I think going forward, a three day window is realistic for comments that
require a response, even if that sometimes means the initial response is
that more time is needed to thoroughly respond.
I’ll follow up on this over the next few days with additional information
about the process, and more will become clear once we publish the documents
and the call for review next week.
Best wishes,
Nicole
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 00:29, effe iets anders <effeietsanders(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Just to emphasize my point: I have searched, and was
still unable to find
any serious consideration or response for some of the feedback that was
provided all the way back in August. In the next iteration, these examples
seem to have been ignored.
It may well be that this is a particularly sad example and that in other
cases this was done much better, or that I happen to be looking at this one
WG that didn't engage/respond/consider . However, this strengthens my
feeling that it would be nice to have open and clear expectations to the
community what will be done with their feedback.
From Kaarels message in another thread I seem forced to conclude that no
changes should be expected based on feedback (that would be the same as my
very limited experience last August), but that someone will only summarize
opposition in some report to the board. Is that a correct reading? This
strongly informs the strategy for community members to follow: try to
engage in an argument/conversation, or in activist petitions, if they would
have concerns with some recommendation.
Lodewijk
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 11:42 AM effe iets anders <
effeietsanders(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Nicole,
Last round (or was it the round before that?) there were some
disappointed
community members because their feedback did not
really spark any
conversation/exchange in a timely manner. I don't want to go back to
focus
on things that coulda woulda shoulda been better
though.
However, I did want to ask whether this time, you (plural) could commit
to
provide timely engagement with the feedback. As I
understand it, there
will
be a single round of feedback (even if it is a
six week round), before
the
board votes on it. It would be nice if we could
make that truly
interactive
and most likely to result in improvements and
addressing concerns, rather
than registering them.
Would you, for example, be able to commit to a three day response time to
constructive questions? Maybe even to actively entertain constructive
improvement suggestions?
I realize that there has been a long process within the walls of many
committees so far - and that no change will be easy to make without
risking
the fabric. Your initial announcement sounds a
bit like you're only
collecting 'feedback' which you will 'summarize' and report back - which
suggests that not much will happen with it unless we collectively make a
lot of noise.
I would much prefer an active and constructive conversation with the
committee members, which is open for actual change over a set of
petitions/protests.
Best,
Lodewijk
On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 9:38 AM Nicole Ebber <nicole.ebber(a)wikimedia.de>
wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> We’ve got lots of news to share from movement strategy: The first
version
> of the movement strategy document is almost
ready, and we’ll be
starting a
> new round of community conversations.
>
> == First version of the movement strategy document coming next week ==
> The writers have been hard at work developing the first version of the
> movement strategy document. A key part of this has been turning the 89
> recommendations produced by the nine working groups into one coherent
set
> and consolidating the work into 13
recommendations. Alongside this, the
> document also features principles that guide the recommendations and a
> narrative of change that summarizes how the recommendations fit together
> and contribute to helping our Movement align with our strategic
direction.
>
> There has been a high level of activity in the last few weeks, both by
the
> writers and the community strategy liaisons,
to create a set of
> recommendations that encompasses the work of the working groups and the
> broad community input received throughout the process. They’ve gone
above
> and beyond what was asked of them, and I
would like to thank them
> wholeheartedly for the huge effort they’ve invested into this work and
for
> their inspiring dedication to making this
happen.
>
> == Community conversations begin next week ==
> A new round of community conversations around this document will begin
> next
> week. We encourage people from across our Movement – members of online
> communities, affiliates, boards, WMF staff – to review the
recommendations
> and share what these might mean for their
community, organization, or
> context. With this round, we are looking to come to a common
understanding
> that the recommendations enable us to move
forward in our strategic
> direction.
>
> Conversations will be held on Meta [1], on various language wikis, on
> social media, and on your community’s other preferred channels. They
will
> run until the first week of March. After
that, the core team will take
one
> week to summarize all community input and
reflect it back in a short,
> public report. The community will then have one week to suggest changes
to
> the posted summary so that it accurately
reflects their viewpoints.
> Community Strategy Liaisons will help facilitate conversations in
Arabic,
> French, German, Hindi, Portuguese, and
Spanish. There will also be
> targeted
> support for English speaking communities. Finally, Strategy Liaisons
from
> affiliates and online language communities
will also receive support for
> facilitating conversations on their own channels.
>
> If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out. Looking
forward
> to hearing from you soon.
>
> Best wishes,
> Nicole
>
> [1]
>
>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recomme…
>
>
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