關於大家的問題,我稍微跟大家做一下說明。
第一,為什麼我們要辦中文年會?根據淡江大學的研究指出,參與中文維基的人主要來自中國大陸、台灣,還有香港,世界各地也有許多華文使用人口在參與中文維基的計畫。我們來自不同國家,大家平常主要以各種即時通訊軟體聯絡,非常希望能見面,這是第一個目的,並希望藉由中文維基年會來解決華文環境所遇到的問題。
第二,為什麼我們的時間選得和2006國際維基媒體大會那麼近?這是考慮到並非所有的中文維基人都有能力--特別是經濟方面--去參加國際維基媒體大會,所以我們將時間定在國際維基媒體大會之後,加上考慮到大部分中文維基人都是沒有經濟能力的學生,因此將時間定於暑假期間。舉辦的確切時間並非籌備小組自行決定,而是開放讓所有維基人投票選出的時間。而選在國際維基媒體大會之後,也正好可以讓有能力去國際維基媒體大會的維基人們,來和無法參與的維基人們分享經驗。
第三,是否結合中文維基人的力量來幫忙國際維基媒體大會,會是節省人力的方法?我的回答是,今天即使中文維基人參與了國際維基媒體大會的籌備工作,我們仍然會舉辦中文的維基年會。
第四,關於所有的中文維基年會籌辦過程和會議記錄,完全公開在維基百科上。
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:2006%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E7%B6%AD%E5%9…
我預計會去參加波士頓的國際維基媒體大會,非常期待與大家見面,希望大家能給中文維基年會更多建議。謝謝。
PS:If you cann't read this latter very well.....that is one of the reasons
why Chinese Wikipedians need a Chinese Wikipedian's Conference.
--
KaurJmeb(KJ)
中文維基百科:http://zh.wikipedia.org
KJ在中文維基百科的日子:http://www.wretch.cc/blog/kaurjmeb
大家一起來玩吧~
The copyright status of the research involved isn't completely clear to
me, but this seems the kind of information that is theoretically, but not
practically, free. I'm not sure who currently advocates for fixes to
these access problems; but it seems like something Wikimedia might want
to do.
"...the agency has allocated no money for moving collections to other
libraries or digitizing the holdings so that they would be available
online."
SJ
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For Immediate Release: Thursday, March 16, 2006
Contact: Chas Offutt (202) 265-7337
EPA Closing Its Midwest Library
Holding Will Be Stored Indefinitely; Public Access to Research
Compromised
Washington, DC - The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is closing its
Midwest Regional Library serving universities, the public and its own
staff in a six-state area, according to an internal email released today
by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER). The agency
is acting without waiting for Congress to approve the proposed budget
cuts that are the basis for dismantling EPA's entire library network.
In a March 13, 2006 memo to employees, EPA Midwestern Regional
Administrator Thomas Skinner wrote that "the library will close in the
near future" so as "to allow time for an orderly relocation of our
library collection." The affected library located in the Chicago
regional headquarters serves the six-state region of Illinois, Indiana,
Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio and Wisconsin.
The memo cites a 90% loss of funding for the regional library in
President Bush's proposed 2007 budget as the reason for closing the
library, even though the proposal has yet to be voted on by Congress and
the new federal fiscal year does not begin until October 1, 2006. The
Midwest Regional Library is one of 27 libraries across the country whose
budget the administration has proposed to reduce by 80%.
"By putting its research collections into indefinite storage, EPA might
as well start burning books because these works are not likely to see
the light of day again," stated PEER Executive Director Jeff Ruch,
noting that the agency has allocated no money for moving collections to
other libraries or digitizing the holdings so that they would be
available online. "The loss of access to this research will remove
potentially key information from the hands of researchers, inspectors
and decision-makers."
The plan to slash library funding is among the $300 million in EPA
budget cuts proposed by the Bush administration. As originally
proposed, the plan would also have de-funded the electronic catalog
maintained by the EPA Headquarters library. When it was pointed out
that eliminating the electronic catalog would make it impossible to find
any holding within the network, EPA announced last week that it would
restore the $500,000 reduction to its headquarters for the catalog.
Unfortunately, EPA indicated that it would compensate for this action by
spreading even deeper cuts cut among the other libraries.
In his email, Regional Administrator Skinner pledged that limited
electronic access to research will remain available to EPA's own staff
but it is unclear what happens to the tens of thousands of research
reports that are now only available as hard copies. At the same time,
employees in other EPA regions are reporting parallel scrambles to
cutback library services in anticipation of adoption of the agency's FY
2007 budget.
"EPA might want to wait for Congress to act before its shutters its
libraries," Ruch added, noting that EPA spends more than a half-billion
dollars a year on research and the total library network budget is only
$2.5 million. "EPA's national research plan is supposed to build on
what we already know; but effectively deploying our existing knowledge
base will be increasingly difficult if decades of research are locked
away in storage."
###
Read the email announcing the library closure
http://www.peer.org/docs/epa/06_13_03_EPA_Library_email.pdf
Learn more about the Bush plan to close the EPA library network
http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=643
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News to me. I am especially interested in the (as far as I know)
unlicensed use of WMF copyright material. Did someone ask and I missed
it?
And someone we know will probably have a fit re: design guidelines.
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Subject: [Foundation-l] "Chinese Wikimania 2006 to be held in Hong Kong"
Just seen on Wikinews:
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Chinese_Wikimania_2006_to_be_held_in_Hong_Ko
ng
Looks like a great effort. Is it official that there are now national
Wikimania conferences in addition to the international one?
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And it was good.
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> In the beginning there were Logos,
And the Logos were with Jimbo and the Logos were Jimbo?
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R.O.C.:
Thank you for this excellent summary.
In answer to the one question you ask about "Wikimedia" - this is also a trademark of the Foundation. It is usually used in this sense to mean more than just Wikipedia, the encyclopedia project. Of course, one of the major advances of zh. Is the new Chinese Wikinews site, so it is entirely appropriate for the conference to give people interested in any wiki issues the opportunity to communicate about any project.
I am absolutely not the right person to make any decisions about the use of trademarks; my strict legal opinion is that the Foundation does own the marks and is within its rights to license their use. Personally, I can think of nothing better to help advance Wikiprojects in Chinese than allowing for the use of these marks to promote the sites. I leave it to those closest to the conference on the Chinese side and the Chapter Coordinator/Wikimania project leader and her associates to work out the details of this. The trademark committee knows it has my meager legal blessing in proceeding with a license for the August 2006 HK event at full speed.
I can't thank you enough for your eloquent and obviously heart-felt interest in bridging the gap between these two populations. You are to be congratulated.
-BradP
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it was a mess, a huge mess, but gladly we are now working together to address it and fix it. if i were a director or officer of the foundation, i would not feel good if i suddenly learned from the newspaper that the chinese or any other local community on the very projects of foundation had been planning something formal without sharing ideas and information with the foundation and moreover some people had used a foundation trademark without prior agreement! there were miscommunications and there are misunderstandings.
i'm a chinese wikipedian who would like to keep anonymity at the moment (my user page is at http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:R.O.C), and i have not participated much in the organization of this chinese conference. but i would like to help sorting the matter out since i understand both chinese and english. here is some information that i would like to provide.
1) it is now realized that the chinese organizers were not keeping in touch with the foundation, but they have been reporting everything on a wikipedia project page (
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:2006%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E7%B6%AD%E5%9…)
in chinese. the working language for the organizers has to be chinese since few of them can use english efficiently and effectively. i will work on a english translation page on meta as informational briefs this saturday. (of course any help with setting it up sooner would be greatly appreciated.)
2) the chinese organizers and the community at large have since the starting of the projects been cohering strongly with the ideas/goals/policies of the foundation -- because we share these same values: free and open sources, neutrality and mutual respect among many others. this is true even if it is not conveyed to the foundation since we have not expressed it much in english. indeed, very few people know about this mailing list -- as an administrator and keen user on zh.wikipedia i did not even know about it until ~3 months ago (how shameful) and have not really utilize it until yesterday. i can tell that the chinese community wants to develop the chinese projects together with the foundation and the international community at large, and this intention/dedication has never changed.
3) frankly, i believe that the difference between english and chinese languages are larger than that between any two western european languages.
even though many chinese in modern mainland china and taiwan start to learn english before primary schools, the lack of live language environment makes it difficult for most of them to communicate in english with an acceptable efficiency. just imagine if asking a native english speaker write in chinese.
4) (partly from KJ's message) contributors to the chinese wikimedia projects mostly reside in mainland china, taiwan, and hong kong, and the remaining small portion locates mostly in north america, europe, and southeast asia.
the zh.wikipedia editors and administrators communicate mainly by instant messagers online besides the wikimedia pages. many of them would like to meet and discuss in person about problems, development, and public promotion of wikimedia projects in chinese. many of the issues cannot be efficiently addressed in an online meeting, a local meeting, or an international conference. there are borders and the travel is not easy between these separate judicial regions, so it would not be as easy or little work as a local meet-up or a country meet-up. but the chinese community feels the need for such a conference and believes in its benefits for better development of wikimedia projects in future, so they would like to pursue it despite of all difficulties.
5) (partly from KJ's message) the chinese community decided by vote after discussion to hold the conference 3 weeks after the international meeting.
there were several considerations.
5.1) due to limited economical abilities and some visa issues, few (if not
zero) contributors in mainland china will be able to attend the international conference. the traveling cost to boston is not a small number for most contributors in taiwan or hong kong, either; but the traveling cost to/in HK would be affordable. those users who can make it for wikimania are likely to be able to travel to HK, but most users who will attend the chinese conference would not have the ability to attend wikimania even if there was no conference in HK. basically, holding a chinese conference in HK would not distract attendees to wikimania in boston.
5.2) the working language on the chinese conference will be chinese (probably mandarin) due to practical reasons. english interpreting service might be offered if there is such a need and the ability. the chinese conference will probably target largely on local or chinese firms/organizations for sponsorship/support. so i do not feel that the chinese conference will divert speakers or much of sponsoring fund/resources.
5.3) the chinese community decided to hold the conference after wikimania so that the few attendees of both conferences can report what they have learned from wikimania to the chinese community. i think that it will actually expand the mission and influence of wikimedia and wikimania.
5.4) many chinese contributors are college students, so holding the chinese conference in august when they are still in summer vacation will make it convenient for both attendees and volunteers.
6) I agree that the organization of the chinese conference has been a little loose. i also agree that we should keep each other informed of what is going on in a timely and efficient manner. some chinese users as individuals have used the foundation's intellectual properties without obtaining prior consent, eg, the "wikimania" in the provisional english name and the wikipedia logo in the hong kong bidding poster.
6.1) i have talked to some chinese organizers and learned that there will be better organization and managements with regards to accountability.
6.2) a meta page about the chinese conference will be set up (before this
saturday) for information and english media releases. chief chinese organizers will also use the foundation-l or other appropriate mailing lists for communications of ideas with the foundation and other communities. I have agreed to help identify and bridge any language difficulties / culture gaps between the two parts of our community.
6.3) i hope that the community can help choosing an english translation for the chinese name of conference, in accordance with foundation policies. the chinese community/conference would like to seek the authorization for using names/trademarks of the foundation, if needed. the name of the chinese conference is "���ľS�����" (literally, "chinese language wikipedia/wikimedia annual conference").
6.3.1) i personally prefer the name "chinese wikimedia conference" and would like to know the procedures for seeking permissions from the foundation regarding the use of "wikimedia". there is no local chapters serving chinese projects at the moment (may not be any time soon either).
6.4) as explained earlier, the english (or western) word of "wikimania" had been interpreted and understood in chinese differently as it is supposed to be. the organizers and chinese users have been informed at zh.wikipedia that wikimania does not mean "wikimedia conference", but "international wikimedia conference" (sponsored by wikimedia foundation); it is also a trading name of wikimedia foundation instead of a generic term.
hope that this is helpful.
roc (User:R.O.C)
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> > --
> > KaurJmeb(KJ)
>
> KJ... Absolutely no one questions the fact chinese editors want a
> conference :-) It is *good* that your community is now big enough and
> united enough to do one.
> Our only worries are that there might be a confusion of names between
> conferences (this has been cleared up) and that three meetings are
> done nearly at the same time.
>
> At least in Europe, meetings are frequent, and I am sure will be more
> and more frequent as time.
> Most of these meetings are restricted to one language only. German
> editors had several meetings (in german). Dutch editors had several
> meetings (in dutch/english). French editors had several meetings as
> well (in french)...
> Of course, chinese editors *should* have meetings as well.
>
> Also, you must absolutely believe we understand the language problem.
> Many of those posting on this list are not primarily english speaking.
> In the recent posters, Delphine, Yann, Jean-Christophe, Jean-Baptiste,
> myself are French. Erik, Mathias are Germans. Gerard and Walter are
> Dutch. Aphaia is Japanese. Shizao is Chinese. Some of us are good in
> english. Others are not very good. And we all belong to communities
> where many people do not speak english at all. French people generally
> are *bad* in english. Those of us who can speak english can help
> bridge between communities.
>
> I hope you (and other chinese who speak english) will post here more
> often. We need you and your input. Last year in Frankfurt, Theodorian
> and others came and told us about the chinese community. You may do
> the same. And I'll tell you about the french ;-)
>
> ant
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Bonne chance, mes amis!
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[mailto:foundation-l-bounces@wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Anthere
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:46 PM
To: foundation-l(a)wikimedia.org
Subject: [Foundation-l] Special project committee open for business
The Special Projects Committee is open for business.
The special projects committee (SPCom) has been created by the Board
along with other Wikimedia committees.
Its scope may be described as
1. Distribution of Wikimedia project's content (DVD, Printed,
mirrors...), with or without partners (Wikijunior grant, publishing
company)
2 Coordination of Wikimedia projets and possible partner projects to
share and connect content (e.g. Internet Archive, runeberg, libraries,
dictionary data for Wiktionary, movies and images for commons,
geographical data......)
3 Coordination between other committees and researchers to analyse the
projects, in particular when technical or legal issues are involved
(e.g. logs, stats......)
4 Coordination of projects between outside agents and the Foundation for
technical or financial benefits of parties (e.g. feeds to mirror sites,
which pay the Foundation regularly for our materials, answers.com, yahoo
search)
5 Assistance to improve/finance/start a new project proposal
(wikiversity, wikidata...), with implication of outside parties or not
6 Evaluation and incubation of other projects, new concepts, new events,
and ideas, to be handled to other committees if considered interesting
(eg, a conference in arab country next year to event committee)
7 Assist the Foundation in the fulfilment of its philanthropic mission
of providing free knowledge to people everywhere.
The committee is currently composed of Jakob, Danny, Aurevilly, Oscar,
Cormac, Andrew Lih, Muriel, SJ and myself.
Along with this committee, subcommittees will be created as issues
arise. Two subcommittees are under creation, one will be dedicated to
Wikiversity and the other one to the MobiLed partnership also mentionned
today. We may be involved in some of the projects proposed by Gerard as
well, WiktionaryZ and InstantCommons.
You are invited to see more about the committee here :
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special_projects_committee
Input is welcome, as well as proposals.
Keeping in mind that we are still in the process of defining our
procedures so that the committee will run smoothly and effectively. So,
please, do not pressure us :-)
Greetings.
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The Special Projects Committee is open for business.
The special projects committee (SPCom) has been created by the Board
along with other Wikimedia committees.
Its scope may be described as
1. Distribution of Wikimedia project's content (DVD, Printed,
mirrors...), with or without partners (Wikijunior grant, publishing company)
2 Coordination of Wikimedia projets and possible partner projects to
share and connect content (e.g. Internet Archive, runeberg, libraries,
dictionary data for Wiktionary, movies and images for commons,
geographical data......)
3 Coordination between other committees and researchers to analyse the
projects, in particular when technical or legal issues are involved
(e.g. logs, stats......)
4 Coordination of projects between outside agents and the Foundation for
technical or financial benefits of parties (e.g. feeds to mirror sites,
which pay the Foundation regularly for our materials, answers.com, yahoo
search)
5 Assistance to improve/finance/start a new project proposal
(wikiversity, wikidata...), with implication of outside parties or not
6 Evaluation and incubation of other projects, new concepts, new events,
and ideas, to be handled to other committees if considered interesting
(eg, a conference in arab country next year to event committee)
7 Assist the Foundation in the fulfilment of its philanthropic mission
of providing free knowledge to people everywhere.
The committee is currently composed of Jakob, Danny, Aurevilly, Oscar,
Cormac, Andrew Lih, Muriel, SJ and myself.
Along with this committee, subcommittees will be created as issues
arise. Two subcommittees are under creation, one will be dedicated to
Wikiversity and the other one to the MobiLed partnership also mentionned
today. We may be involved in some of the projects proposed by Gerard as
well, WiktionaryZ and InstantCommons.
You are invited to see more about the committee here :
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special_projects_committee
Input is welcome, as well as proposals.
Keeping in mind that we are still in the process of defining our
procedures so that the committee will run smoothly and effectively. So,
please, do not pressure us :-)
Greetings.
Anthere
Short and sweet: we have too many of them, most of them aren't being used as
"fair use" images, many don't have sources, almost none have fair use
criteria, and more than a few are being used in articles that have no real
need for them.
May I suggest that we start taking action on this issue? IMO they are a
ticking time bomb waiting to go off. Not only that, but they are diluting
the "freeness" of the project and causing problems for those who want to use
our material unaltered.
TBSDY
Thank you for your email. I am happy to announce that the Special Projects
committee has taken responsibility for the MobilEd effort and that Jean
Baptiste Soufron will chair our first subcommittee, which will be handling this. I
thank everyone who has participated in this so far, and urge them to provide
Soufron with all the information and support necessary to make this an
outstanding example of collaboration between the Wikimedia Foundation and the other
participants in this exciting project.
Danny
Some of you may remember the project to bring spoken (synthesized
speech) Wikipedia content to mobile phones. Teemu Leinonen of the
University of Art and Design Helsinki, who is leading the project, has
informed me: "We already have the phone system to receive the SMS, to
do the calls back, TTP and system to record callers contributions."
The project now also has a website at:
http://mobiled.uiah.fi/
They want to run a school pilot in South Africa soon. This is a very
important project as it can bring Wikipedia content to nations with
insufficient Internet access but reasonable cell phone coverage, which
includes some developing countries. Given that the system operates by
providing a free callback after you send an SMS requesting an article,
it provides almost completely free access to the content.
As noted above, the project is envisioned to allow people to
contribute in their native language, so at some point we'll have to
talk to Teemu's team about dealing with call-in contributions on the
level of our project communities.
The website has a couple of (slightly campy) demonstration videos.
Browsing around, it seems that they are using Asterisk and a
nifty-looking open source tool called "Dialog Palette" to develop the
telephony server:
http://dialogpalette.sourceforge.net/
The idea is that anyone can set up similar telephony services for any
kind of content, using only open source software.
To keep up to date on the project's progress, you can subscribe to
their RSS feed at:
http://mobiled.uiah.fi/?feed=rss2
Regards,
Erik