[Wikipedia-l] Moldovan wikipedia: hands waiving is not proof

Wed Jun 28 21:07:32 UTC 2006

It depends.

If you mean people who speak the national language of Moldova and were
educated in Cyrillic, then yes, I'm pretty sure [[User:Oleg
Alexandrov]] qualifies there.

If you mean people who call their language "Moldovan" and insist that
it's a different language from Romanian, no, I don't think there is
anyone.

Mark

On 28/06/06, mboverload <mboverload at gmail.com> wrote:
> QUESTION:  I don't care if they're native, are there any "near native"
> speakers of "MOLDOVAN" on en.wikipedia.org?
>
> mboverload
>
> On 6/28/06, Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > And you're accusing me of spreading FUD? Psht.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On 28/06/06, Jacky PB <dpotop1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello everybody,
> > >
> > > After sending my point of view here, I presumed someone was going to
> > investigate the matter, by asking questions and LOOKING DIRECTLY AT THE
> > FACTS. To my surprise, this did not happen (maybe every high-rank admin is
> > in vacations?).
> > >
> > > As I noticed in my initial post of June 24th, the this lack of decision
> > can only lead to the situation coarsing, and the various parts stacking all
> > sorts of  oppinions. This is true for the Romanians and for the few
> > Romanian-speaking Moldovans that support the deletion of this wikipedia.
> > This is also true for Mark Williamson (User:Node_ue) and for the Russians
> > that support him. There is no nativ Moldovan speaker supporting
> > mo.wikipedia.
> > >
> > > Now, to come back to the facts. I suggest reading my post of June 24th,
> > which is not, as Mark says, too high-level. It mainly notices three facts,
> > that can easily be checked (despite all the hands-waving of Mark):
> > >
> > > 1.  THERE IS NO NATIVE MOLDOVAN SPEAKER HERE ON WIKIPEDIA.
> > >
> > > 2.  99% of the articles of mo.wikipedia have been copied from
> > ro.wikipedia with just the script changed from Latin to Cyrillic, by Mark
> > (Usedr:Node_ue).
> > >
> > > 3.  Mark assumes for himself a level mo-2, meaning that he is not able
> > to write text in Moldovan.
> > >
> > > All the other users on mo.wikipedia are either against Mark (including
> > some trolls), or create 1-line incorrect articles, or simply move around
> > interwiki links to give the impression something happens.
> > >
> > > This means that there is NO COMMUNITY, and that mo.wikipedia is nothing
> > more than a political statement without any other content. Is this the
> > vocation of wikipedia?
> > >
> > > MY SUGGESTION: LOOK AT THE FACTS DIRECTLY on mo.wikipedia. Hands waiving
> > and sending message after message with FUD is the strong point of Mark. But
> > he cannot alter edit histories, nor user lists.
> > >
> > > Please, look at the facts yourself.
> > >
> > > Yours,
> > > [[:en:User:Dpotop]], [[:ro:User:Dpotop]]
> > >
> > >
> > >
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