[WikiEN-l] Queen Elizabeth II and 3R

Fri Mar 4 09:54:26 UTC 2005

Skyring/Peter:

I will put in a postscipt after all.

I have now established a link between this republic matter and the 3R debate
being discussed here. 

You and another user recently got caught out in this matter on the Government
of Australia article, and got your wrists slapped because of the 3R violation rule,
and you've now resorted to discussing this whole republic fiction here. 

I'll reword and repeat the bit you did not quote me on before: wikien-l is
not the outlet for pushing POVs like yours. I'll add that I see little hope
in this 3R discussion for your assertions. 

The only positive point you've made here as regards 3R is that you've illustrated 
how unsatisfactory the 3R rule can be when it comes to settling disputes.

Arno

----- Original Message -----
From: Skyring <skyring at gmail.com>
To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l at wikipedia.org>
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Queen Elizabeth II
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 19:26:59 +1100

> 
> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 08:03:08 +0000, actionforum at comcast.net
> <actionforum at comcast.net> wrote:
> > ------------- Original message --------------
> > > Peter, the Queen IS the Head of state here in Australia , 
> > though the matter is
> > > complicated by the G-G representing her.
> >
> > But isn't Peter also correct that Austrailia is a republic?  I 
> > thought most constitutional monarchies were republics.  The 
> > salient point is whether the monarch or the constitution is 
> > supreme.  If the monarch cannot suspend or amend the 
> > constitution, then what you have is the rule of law, a "republic".
> 
> Spot on. The Australian people drew up their Constituion through a
> People's Convention with popularly elected delegates, and the
> resultant constitution was approved by the people in each of the six
> colonies. The constitution may ONLY by changed by a majority of the
> voters in a majority of the six States.
> 
> Neither the Queen, nor the Governor-General, nor Parliament, nor the
> Government may amend a single letter of the Constitution without the
> express approval of the people.
> 
> The Governor-General's powers are given to him in the Constitution by
> the people, and the Queen is all but powerless. She cannot issue
> instructions nor may she exercise any of the Governor-General's
> constitutional powers.
> --
> Peter in Canberra
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