[Foundation-l] Re: [Wikipedia-l] Desysopping procedure against waerth

Tue Jan 17 13:10:32 UTC 2006

Hoi,
I hope you realise that there is more to this than meets the eye.
Waerth has been doing things that were awfull. This list is not nice
and I will not bother you with a complete decomfiture. Understand that
I like Waerth as a person. I do admire his hard work. The fact is also
that I found it necessary to vote.

I have been warned on my user page by Waerth because I dared to
suggest that it would be good to take some time and reduce the number
of options to vote for in a block policy to something more manageable.
Some eight admins were threatened with a desysop procedure for the
same reason. It is abuse of power like this that made me decide to
vote.

The fact that vandals need to be dealt with does not mean that
everything is allowed in this fight. It may be true that much time was
wasted, but there is always another day.

I do not mind when you vote for Waerth, but when you do, please do it
after having learned the reasons why it came this far in the first
place.

Thanks,
   GerardM

On 1/17/06, Walter van Kalken <walter at vankalken.net> wrote:
> A desysopping procedure against me has started on nl:
>
> A brilliant timing btw my sysopstatus will be taken away on my birthday.
> As I have said before. If I get desysopped something breaks in me. As I
> have always done a lot for the community. It is ironic that on nl: the
> trolls can stay, as they do not even get blocked! And the one who is
> constantly trying to keep things going looses his modstatus.
>
> I have tried after a year of discussing to finally get a blockpolicy
> going on nl: that allows blocks for more than 24 hours. 7 proposals have
> been made by 7 users. But no what do they want on nl: they want to
> discuss things further. Meanwhile trolls feast on nl: and multiple users
> have left already. Also an arbcom has been discussed for over a year.
> And everytime someone has a proposal they discuss further and further
> and further. NL: has become a discussionforum in which proposals are
> discussed, but never ever implemented. I tried to further it by warning
> people on their userpages that wikipedia is not a discussionforum. They
> responded with a desysoppingprocedure here:
> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Afzetting_moderators
>
> This is the worst birthday gift after over 2 years of hard work. I
> defended nl.wikipedia a number of times over the radio as a
> presscontact. everyone said I had done a good job. I now feel stupid
> sorry for doing  such a good job. This community doesn't deserve people
> who are willing to work hard.
>
> Waerth/Walter
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