On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 12:15 +0100, Thomas Dalton wrote: A simple illustration of the view from this side of the border was expressed in today's freebie paper, the Metro. Surprisingly, it's near-identical to one I personally used over ten years ago when living in Belgium: "Scottish first, European second, and British last". That, as I'd hope people south of the border understand, is because to much of the rest of the world Britain = England. All three of the major UK political parties are looking seriously to, at a minimum, devolve their Scottish presence and give it far more autonomy. Further to that, a recent survey found that over 30% of the population expect to see a truly independent Scotland in their lifetime. Scottish national identity, and political awareness, has come a long, long way since I was a student chucking past-their-sell-by-date duck eggs at the Iron Lady. Brian McNeil. -- http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brian_McNeil - Accredited Reporter. Facts don't cease to be facts, but news ceases to be news.

In summary, I think the most common view is that if we are pushing some events in Scotland then teeshirts with "Wikimedia in Scotland" as the theme, maybe with a generic logo, would be a good thing. Much as Liam set up glamwiki.org as a handy re-direct, perhaps we can also set up a suitable .org domain for our collaboration space too. I'll factor this into our plans when plotting in Edinburgh. ;-) Cheers, Fae -- http://enwp.org/user_talk:fae Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/faetags

On 14/09/2011 21:14, Bod Notbod wrote: Erm no. The (widely reported) view of one of the leading contender for Scottish Conservatives & Unionist party leadership does not equate to the view of the entire party members in Scotland, or even the view of Conservatives MSPs & MP. KTC -- Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - Heinrich Heine

Actually the situation with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland is quite different. Working in those nations with a "UK" name and an address in England tends to go down rather less well (particularly if you are dealing with institutions that are part of the national cultural fabric, as we are likely to). My only concern about using different national branding is that it might give an impression of more actual devolution than there genuinely is.

Well, indeed. Personally I would like to see that happen, but I think we are at least a year away from it at the moment. Chris

On 13 September 2011 14:00, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote: We need a name, we can't just have a picture. (Or we'll end up being "The Chapter formerly known as Wikimedia UK"!)

The decision shouldn't be made based on population, but on whether there would be a significant benefit. A Scottish group could be much more effective in Scotland than a UK group. The same isn't true of London. Londoners have a reputation for forgetting the rest of the country exists, but they don't object to it. On Sep 13, 2011 11:28 PM, "geni" <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote: