Martin makes a good point and now that I'm off work for a few days ill
reply as a volunteer: I would be in favour of signing this. is something I
believe most members would agree with signing too.
On Nov 28, 2013 3:31 PM, "Stevie Benton" <stevie.benton(a)wikimedia.org.uk>
wrote:
Thanks for the replies. As Martin notes, I haven't
said it is out of
scope, but that *some may* feel that way.
It is a tricky question, actually. If I had to call it on my own view, I'd
say sign it as it is worthwhile. "Free and open" being the key words here -
if there is widespread and secretive surveillance, then the web, and the
knowledge contained therein, becomes neither free nor open. But I can see
that it isn't necessarily clear-cut, hence asking the question.
On 28 November 2013 15:23, Richard Symonds <
richard.symonds(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
Well, it's not really directly linked to our
objects ("for the benefit
of the public, to promote and support the widest possible public access to,
use of and contribution to Open Content of an encyclopaedic or educational
nature or of similar utility to the general public"). That said,
ensuring that data safeguards are in place (in part by signing things like
this) would help encourage people to use the internet and be more open with
their knowledge (as they can trust it more if it's properly regulated and
data isn't being surreptitiously obtained by all and sundry).
A complex question.
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On 28 November 2013 15:18, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 28 November 2013 13:24, Stevie Benton
<stevie.benton(a)wikimedia.org.uk>
wrote:
Hello everyone,
Wikimedia UK has been asked to consider signing a document supporting
these
International Principles on the Application of
Human Rights to
Communications Surveillance In principle I think this is worthwhile and
shows that we are on the side of the every day internet user. But some
may
say it is out of our scope. What do people think?
If there's a
consensus
I'll add Wikimedia UK to the list.
This can be discussed on this list or on the Water Cooler of the WMUK
wiki
if you prefer.
What were the "out of our scope" objections?
Thanks,
Fae
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