Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ODNB missing women in focus

Richard, I tried to extract the names from your list (which was a challenge, given that some are stated with "name", some with "fornames", some "forenames", "surname", not always in that order, "alt name"...) After some tweaking, I ended up with 6570 names (some of them double, see above). Of these, 3481 matched the ODNB names in mix'n'match. Of these, 24 are not women on Wikidata. I mage a PagePile for those: https://tools.wmflabs.org/pagepile/api.php?id=251&action=get_data&f… It appears that at least some of the women on your list are not women. Example from your list: # {{User:Rich Farmbrough/ODNB entry|image=1|known for=army medical officer and transvestite|born=c.1799|died=1865|forenames=James |surname=Barry}} "transvestite" does, AFAIK, not qualify as "woman"; even if so, it would be more a transgender case? Extrapolating from this, there would be less than 50 entries in your list (if one could extract the proper ODNB names) that are not marked as women in Wikidata, most of them correctly so. On the other hand, there are 6241 Wikidata items with an ODNB ID that are marked as women [1]. Compared with your 6570, that would mean at least 329 women on Wikidata are not marked as such, or do not exist at all. All of the ODNB items on Wikidata that are marked as human have a gender assigned, so unless something/someone went very wrong, missing gender assignment is not the issue. There are also no ODNB items that do not have an "instance of". Which leaves these explanations: * There are ~330 women in your list that are neither in Mix'n'match, nor in Wikidata * There are ~330 bogus women in your list * Some combination of the above As women make up ~10% of the ODNB, 330 missing women in Wikidata would mean we are missing a set of at least 3000 ODNB entries somewhere. That's all I could come up with quickly. Cheers, Magnus [1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/autolist/?language=en&project=wikipedia&c… On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 2:24 PM Richard Farmbrough <richard(a)farmbrough.co.uk> wrote: