Hi Jan-Bart and others,
I would hope we can wait until we hear the results of the review before
jumping to the conclusion that what has gone on is "highly irregular"
(which incidentally, clearly *is *an accusation of wrong doing). There are
certainly allegations that have been made that are of serious concern but I
would hope people are able to wait to see the evidence and the report
before assuming they are well founded.
In the meantime, everyone involved is clearly going through a very
difficult time so I hope we are able to pull together, work through this
and we can come through a stronger chapter at the end.
Regards,
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Jan-Bart de Vreede <jdevreede(a)wikimedia.org
wrote:
> Hi
>
> It doesn't work like that, as I indicated there have been some (highly)
> irregular activities in the past months (which is not the same as what you
> state below). The timing is such that a decision on Payment Processing
> (which is indeed not the same as fundraising or applying to the FDC, but is
> actually quite separate) had to be made now. After what I know was a lot of
> consultation both ways this is the conclusion that we arrived at.
>
> Please don't read more into this than that. Its not a power grab and its
> not an accusation of wrongdoing, its what we feel is the right thing to do
> under the difficult circumstances.
>
> (oh and payment processing is actually work, it does not get done
> automatically)
>
> Jan-Bart de Vreede
> Wikimedia Board of Trustees
>
>
> On 29 Sep 2012, at 19:07, Katie Chan <ktc(a)ktchan.info
wrote:
>
> > On 29/09/2012 16:28, Jan-bart de Vreede wrote:
> >> Hi James (and others)
> >>
> >> What I find puzzling in your reasoning is that you automatically assume
> >> bad faith on the part of the WMF. At this point everyone should be
> >> concerned about the fact that over the past months we have had several
> >> (highly) irregular activities within the UK chapter. It is important
> >> that we (as in the movement) conduct a thorough review to see what the
> >> complete facts are so that we can make sure that we can learn from this
> >> and draw proper conclusions.
> >
> > Woah, hold it right there Jan-bart. What *I* find puzzling is how you
> (personally and WMF in general) assumes that Wikimedia UK has done wrong
> before this supposedly independent review has started never mind been
> completed.
> >
> > KTC
> >
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