Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Recent changes and watchlists on the UK wiki are still broken

Seems negative Harry. This is surely the outcome that everyone expected when the WMUK board was professionalised by going from volunteer led, to appointing trustees without even minimal Wikimedia project experience. Add to this a significant reduction in transparency and reducing elections, while claiming improved governance, means that volunteers are disengaged and uninformed. We all saw this happening a long time ago. As evidence that something is amiss, the last AGM failed to be quorate, but this was spun as a great success. Underpinning this was the weirdness over membership numbers, which I guess is not important as members no longer have access to any regular reports of membership, so we cannot really make any comment about it. WMUK is a very different organisation from the one we established, and its function appears to be mostly as a funding partner for GLAMs to set up residential programmes, with a few editathons, rather than fostering a creative community of open knowledge volunteers doing new and different stuff. If us unpaid volunteers think we need coordination rather than just acting individually, then it makes sense that we go back to the way things used to work before 2010 and coordinate ourselves as a free society, rather than waiting for a charity which no longer has those skills, and certainly will not allocate the employee time, to do it to us. P.S. before someone sends me a haranguing email telling me what a terrible person I am, I refuse to feel bad about spending my volunteer time supporting open knowledge, or my lack of interest in covering every issue with soft soap. Thanks, and I hope everyone is planning lots of fun stuff for the New Year, not just talking about Brexit, Fae -- faewik(a)gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 20:49, Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki(a)gmail.com> wrote: coherently organised, but the staff and volunteers who were running projects used it as a sort of filing cabinet for documentation of events etc, and a small group of us used to keep an eye on the recent changes for spam and other rubbish but those days seem to be long gone. useless as a coordination hub and discussion venue and therefore the WMUK community, such as it is (a smaller subset of the community on this mailing list with a more specific function) is essentially homeless. That this does not seem to be a high priority, much less cause for alarm, is in my opinion a reflection on the fact that there is nobody in any senior position at WMUK with any deep background on the Wikimedia projects - something it's hard to shake the feeling is a deliberate hiring decision. lucy.crompton-reid(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: I appreciate that this is very frustrating. I'll need to look into this over the next few days and get back to you, but just wanted to acknowledge your message in the meantime. Cheers, Lucy affecting problem is no sandbox fix without this Personal and confidential, please do not circulate or re-quote.anned to be undertaken in the future to knowledge movement, and a registered charity. We rely on donations from individuals to support our work to make knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting Wikimedia? https://donate.wikimedia.org.uk Registered No. 6741827 London SE1 0NZ Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. Personal and confidential, please do not circulate or re-quote. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk