New subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] additions - Indian Languages question

14 Feb 2013

Correction: by Dravidian language in Pakistan I suppose you meant Brahui,
which has a couple of million speakers. Doesn't appear to be much writing
in the language though. We will have to find out more.

And one more comment on your suggestion about using 'Indic-Dravidian': do
remember that we have several languages in the north-east which are part of
neither of these groupings, since they are from the Tibeto-Burman family of
languages! This is what I meant by the problem of using philological
classifications and terminology.

TN

On 13 February 2013 18:38, Tejaswini Niranjana &lt;teju(a)cscs.res.in&gt; wrote:

...
  Hi Niraj,
 Thanks for engaging with this difficult question. I think we may have to
 look at sizeable populations speaking a certain language while deciding how
 to classify where it is spoken. I was surprised to see your remark that
 Dravidian languages are spoken in Pakistan. I was not aware of this fact,
 and would like to know if it is the odd speaker who happens to live or work
 there, or there are good-sized populations speaking Kannada or Telugu for
 example.

 As for your suggestion about a combination name like Indic-Dravidian, that
 still falls into the philological problems that using 'Indic' alone
 does,and doesn't necessarily make the term more inclusive.

 So I think we will have to keep discussing this issue for some more time!

 Tejaswini

 On 11 February 2013 13:59, Niraj Suryawanshi &lt;niraj.suryawanshi(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote;wrote:

  Dear Mam,

 I understand & appreciate the depth of thought process and inputs put
 behind
 this question about use of words "*Indian*" or "*Indic*". I'm
very much
 convinced since all the languages we are considering belong to different
 classes and categories, geographically and origin wise too, and needs to
 be
 labeled under a common name!

 But if we consider the label Indian languages, which specifies the origin
 and use of the same in India, there are many languages which are
 predominantly used not only in India but also in the other surrounding
 counties eg. Bangla (Indic Language, Indo-Aryan) which is used in India,
 Bangladesh & Burma.
 And many other Dravidian Languages which are thought to be specifically
 South Indian languages are used in neighboring eastern countries like
 Pakistan too.

 This question will arise every time when we have to specify "Indian
 Language" or "Indic Languages" for any given reason.

 How about the combination of names of both different language families so
 that the language set wont be distributed with respect to the current
 territorial boundaries but with regards to their origin and a proper
 classification depending upon the origin/birth. viz "*Indic - Dravidian
 Languages*"

 This was my personal view over the query, you can always correct me if I'm
 misleading.

 -----
 Regards & Thanks,

 Niraj Suryawanshi
 on behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
 +91 814 992 0120 | niraj.suryawanshi(a)gmail.com
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Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications
(HEIRA)
Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS)
Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS)
Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute
of Science (CCS-IISc)

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