Re: [WikiJournal-en] Fwd: [trademark] Trademark for WikiJournal

Dear Mikael The following link might be cited: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&r… Original link https://ru.wikijournal.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%BD%… The corresponding page on the English version is even more interesting: https://en.wikijournal.org/wiki/Special:Statistics Regards Diptanshu Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. On 15 December 2017 at 18:19, Mikael Häggström &lt;editor.in.chief(a)wikijmed.org > Indeed, that was good mentioning as well. I forward my email below. > > Best regards, > > Mikael > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mikael Häggström &lt;editor.in.chief(a)wikijmed.org&gt; > Date: Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:47 PM > Subject: Re: [trademark] Trademark for WikiJournal > To: "Charles M. Roslof" &lt;croslof(a)wikimedia.org&gt;rg>, wjifar(a)wikimedia.org > > > Dear Charles M. Roslof and Woubzena Jifar, > > It is necessary to already obtain trademark registrations, because an > unrelated "WikiJournal" has already popped up, wikijournal.org, which > appeared about 2 years after our project was created. I have tried to > negotiate with the creator of that project (Philip Krasilnikov) about > transfer of that .org domain to us, without so far being able to reach an > agreement. It is possible that this name conflict will end up in legal > proceedings later, so we find it necessary to as soon as possible secure > our legal rights of the WikiJournal name, which is now in use in several > external scholarly indexes and thereby not possible to change at all > locations. It is also worth noting that Philip Krasilnikov made a rapid > grant application using the WikiJournal name, attempting to receive $15,000 > USD from the Wikimedia Foundation: Grants:Project/Philip/WikiJour > nal.org/WikiJournal > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Philip/WikiJournal.org/WikiJournal> > > In any case, I have removed the trademark registration part from our > rapid grant application > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/WikiJournal_2018>. > Also, the COPE membership part is removed because we can fund that > membership through 2018 from our last grant. > > Best regards, > > Mikael Haggstrom > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Gwinyai Masukume &lt;parturitions(a)gmail.com&gt; > >> Thanks Mikael, >> >> I think there was an attempted scam of US$15 000 already involving >> WikiJournal. I think with expansion of the project to cover more subject >> areas obtaining trademark, etc is apt. >> >> Kindest regards, >> Gwinyai >> >> Apologies for brevity and typos - sent from mobile >> >> On 13 Dec 2017 16:11, "Mikael Häggström" &lt;editor.in.chief(a)wikijmed.org&gt; >>> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> I received the forwarded response from the Wikimedia legal team. I >>> intend to reply as follows: >>> >>> "Hello Charles, >>> >>> It is necessary to already obtain trademark registrations, because an >>> unrelated "WikiJournal" has already popped up, wikijournal.org, which >>> appeared about 2 years after our project was created. I have tried to >>> negotiate with the creator of that project (Philip Krasilnikov) about >>> transfer of that .org domain to us, without so far being able to reach an >>> agreement. It is possible that this name conflict will end up in legal >>> proceedings later, so we find it necessary to as soon as possible secure >>> our legal rights of the WikiJournal name, which is now in use in several >>> external scholarly indexes and thereby not possible to change at all >>> locations." >>> >>> In any case, I removed the trademark part of our rapid grant >>> application, since it needs to be done directly by Wikimedia Foundation. [edit >>> diff] >>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grants%3AProject%2FRapid%2FWikiJournal_2018&type=revision&diff=17540486&oldid=17524675> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Mikael >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Charles M. Roslof &lt;croslof(a)wikimedia.org&gt; >>> Date: Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 10:46 PM >>> Subject: Re: [trademark] Trademark for WikiJournal >>> To: Mikael Häggström &lt;editor.in.chief(a)wikijmed.org&gt; >>> Cc: Trademark &lt;trademarks(a)wikimedia.org&gt;rg>, Woubzena Jifar < >>> wjifar(a)wikimedia.org&gt; >>> >>> >>> Hi Mikael, >>> >>> I've copied Woubzena Jifar, the Foundation's Rapid Grants Program >>> Officer. >>> >>> Thank you for reaching out about this. If "WikiJournal" is to be >>> registered as a trademark, then it should be held by the Wikimedia >>> Foundation. The Foundation has the established processes and resources to >>> protect Wikimedia trademarks, and having "WikiJournal" as part of the >>> Wikimedia trademark portfolio would avoid issues of confusion or conflict >>> with other Wikimedia marks, such as "Wikibooks". I would also want we at >>> the Foundation to handle the registration, to ensure it is consistent with >>> the registrations of the other marks. >>> >>> Registering a new trademark requires a commitment of resources beyond >>> the initial filing fee. There may be opposition to the registration, which >>> would require us to file responses, and we would need to have advice and >>> support from outside experts through the registration process to ensure >>> that everything is done properly. In addition, if it is necessary to >>> register the mark in the United States then it may be necessary to register >>> it in other countries as well. >>> >>> Given this, I'm not sure it is appropriate to seek registration of the >>> "WikiJournal" mark at this time. I know that there is a proposal for >>> WikiJournal to become its own sister project >>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiJournal>—if that proposal is >>> accepted, then we would certainly want to proceed with obtaining trademark >>> registrations for the "WikiJournal" wordmark and whatever logo is chosen >>> for the project. I don't know that it is necessary to obtain registrations >>> before then, unless (1) there is significant risk of unrelated things >>> called "WikiJournal" popping up and causing confusion with the Wikimedia >>> WikiJournals, or (2) the WikiJournals are getting a significant amount of >>> high-profile public attention. >>> >>> I'd be happy to hear your additional thoughts and questions on this >>> matter. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Charles M. Roslof >>> Legal Counsel >>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> croslof(a)wikimedia.org >>> (415) 839-6885 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Mikael Häggström < >>> editor.in.chief(a)wikijmed.org>>> >>>> Dear legal team, >>>> >>>> The WikiJournal User Group >>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiJournal_User_Group> is now a >>>> registered non-profit organization in Sweden, and we are now applying >>>> for funding for registering WikiJournal as a trademark in the United States. >>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/WikiJournal_2018> >>>> >>>> Is is all right that this trademark belongs to the WikiJournal User >>>> Group organization, or do you require it to belong directly to the >>>> Wikimedia Foundation? >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Mikael Häggström >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "WJM board" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to wjmboard+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to wjmboard(a)googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/wjmboard. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ms >>> gid/wjmboard/CACubOwhRq7akixKKKBDEnCDn-Zza%2BnraUrAuPWeqjKpm >>> euTzxw%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wjmboard/CACubOwhRq7akixKKKBDEnCDn-Zza%2BnraUrAuPWeqjKpmeuTzxw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "WJS board" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to wjsboard+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to wjsboard(a)googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/wjsboard. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ms >> gid/wjsboard/CAN7k9TJ83J3xP9A-8wdEpqnVj0ZXrimTaFGaGVCfwLL_0v >> spgg%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wjsboard/CAN7k9TJ83J3xP9A-8wdEpqnVj0ZXrimTaFGaGVCfwLL_0vspgg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > WikiJournal-en mailing list > WikiJournal-en(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikijournal-en > >