Hi Rute,
First off, there should be no particular reason why changing the concept URI is
impossible. In many cases you simply have to take the "docker-compose exec XXX"
bit off the front of the command in that tutorial. It would require you to manually set up
a separate installation of WDQS and be sure to use the correct paths for each command.
(Or, as it notes, you could use the existing one, but you would have to manually remove
the existing data, which may be complicated and is not described there - not doing so is
likely to result in duplicate results.)
At the risk of explaining something you may already know from editing: in the situation
you describe, items - and properties, lexemes, etc. - are held in namespaces separate from
the main, non-prefixed namespace. Each namespace can be viewed as a separate set of pages.
So for example, Name_of_the_person (or, indeed, Q1) is a page in the main namespace, but
Item:Q1 is in the Item: namespace and treated differently. (Technically the content type
is associated with the individual page, but let's ignore that for now...)
Just putting a name with a colon does not make a separate namespace - it is configured
either by software (as with the default Item: namespace when you use the Wikibase
extension) or in the configuration settings -
https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Using_custom_namespaces - and then all pages created
after that with that prefix are stored in a separate collection to other pages in other
namespaces, including the default one. So there should be no problem with having items
start with Item:, unless you consider that inappropriate (perhaps because the main purpose
of the wiki is to be a Wikibase). And you will still have e.g. Properties that are in a
separate namespace.
I guess my question would be why you feel having general pages and the items on the same
wiki is not ideal? It is true that this is not how Wikipedia (and other Wikimedia
projects) are set up with respect to Wikidata, but this may be because Wikidata was added
on later as a separate project, and intended to serve multiple Wikimedia projects, which
may not be the case for your setup. It therefore also made sense for the "main"
non-prefixed namespace to be a place for items, and so the Wikidata: (aka Project:)
namespace was used for other project pages.
In the "usual" case, Wikibase is used to add structured data to a project with
existing pages in the main namespace, and therefore Wikidata's setup is either not
possible or not very desirable, because it would mean two separate installations of
MediaWiki, probably one with just the Wikibase Client while the other has the Client and
Repository. This is basically the answer to your $wgServer question - normally, two
different URL setups would be two separate instances. To have a non-shared prefix - i.e.
not /wiki/ or similar - for two namespaces on the same wiki, I think you'd need, at
least, an extension like
https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NamespacePaths - I'm not
sure if this has been used with Wikibase, although it'd be interesting to know if it
worked to map to e.g. /items/Q1. It is stated to be unmaintained, but it is getting some
general maintenance by the looks of it, so may still work.
It may also be possible to make items appear at a separate domain name or path using web
server alias/rewrite rules, too, but this would probably lead to various issues. Some
projects have also written standalone user interfaces that use MediaWiki+Wikibase just as
a storage layer via the API, and rendered items itself, but I guess this may be more than
you have in mind.
Hope this helps, if not maybe others can advise with (ideally) more information on your
project and what you have in mind for your URIs instead.
--
Laurence 'GreenReaper' Parry - WBUG
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From: Rute Correia - Wikimedian in Residence <wir(a)fcsh.unl.pt>
Sent: Monday, 4 July 2022, 19:20
To: wikibaseug(a)lists.wikimedia.org <wikibaseug(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikibase] Changing URIs and doubts about $wgServer
Hi,
Is it possible to change the URL/URI structure of a Wikibase. I found this
tutorial<https://addshore.com/2019/11/changing-the-concept-uri-of-an-exi…a/>,
but since I am not using Docker, I am struggling to follow it (also my technical knowledge
is rather limited).
Building on this question, is it possible to have two instances(options?) for $wgServer on
MediaWiki LocalSettings.php file? I am working with a MediaWiki + Wikibase installation
that encompasses both a wikipedia-style part linked to a wikibase part. Right now, the
articles and entities paths are now the same, which is obviously not ideal.
Article URL structure:
http://mydomain.pt/wiki/Name_of_the_person
Entity URL:
http://mydomain.pt/wiki/Item:Q1234
For reference, the project uses MediaWiki 1.35.
Thank you very much in advance,
Rute Correia
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