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Risker

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Kevin Gorman

29 May 29 May

12:12 a.m.

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Well that's quite a quick leap :) I randomly barged in to Lila in an elevator a couple weeks ago (in all seriousness), and had a brief conversation with her. I am quite excited to see what the transition brings. Best, Kevin Gorman On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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This is a pretty impressive showing for someone just 4 weeks into the job: being named to the Forbes list of the 100 most powerful women: http://www.forbes.com/profile/lila-tretikov/ Note that increasing diversity is, according to the brief article, a top priority. Risker/Anne _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

Toby Hudson

16 Jun 16 Jun

2:58 p.m.

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Risker

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Andrew Gray

10:02 p.m.

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Stub tags are notoriously bad for this (I've just rerated half a dozen of these; Toby, are you happy for me to update the list?) On the other hand, we can take away a somewhat positive message from this as well: Two articles are FA and 6 are GA/equivalent. Across enwiki as a whole, approximately 0.6% of articles are FA or GA class. So this subset of articles is perhaps ten times better than the average... Andrew. On 16 June 2014 15:06, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Toby Hudson

17 Jun 17 Jun

3:01 a.m.

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While I will agree that many of those articles could use significant improvement, I wouldn't take the assessments all that seriously; a lot of those articles have not been assessed in many years, despite intervening improvements. Risker On 16 June 2014 08:58, Toby Hudson <tobyyy(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I've just wikified this in my userspace if anyone wants to quickly check > out our articles on these women. The good news is that we have an

article

> for each of them. The bad news is that article quality is pretty grim

> these are truly the 100 most powerful women. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:99of9/100powerwomen > > Toby/99of9 > > > > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> This is a pretty impressive showing for someone just 4 weeks into the >> job: being named to the Forbes list of the 100 most powerful women: >> http://www.forbes.com/profile/lila-tretikov/ >> >> >> Note that increasing diversity is, according to the brief article, a

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Toby Hudson

4:33 a.m.

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I didn't find a men only list, but their list of powerful people looks close enough. (!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:99of9/powerpeople I'll leave the ratings until after Andrew re-rates them ;-), but already there's a male redlink at #36 most powerful - interesting gap. Toby On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Toby Hudson <tobyyy(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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While I will agree that many of those articles could use significant improvement, I wouldn't take the assessments all that seriously; a lot

those articles have not been assessed in many years, despite intervening improvements. Risker On 16 June 2014 08:58, Toby Hudson <tobyyy(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I've just wikified this in my userspace if anyone wants to quickly

check

> out our articles on these women. The good news is that we have an

article

> for each of them. The bad news is that article quality is pretty grim

top

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Andrew Gray

18 Jun 18 Jun

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Done! All the stubs, at least. A couple of thoughts: a) As expected, most of the stubs weren't :-). BLPs are not my forte, but I'd say there's nine at most, and two or three of those are marginal to be uprated. [This is a pretty systemic problem with our talkpage ratings and stub tags: as Risker says, they get very stale. The sheer labour that would be required to keep them up-to-date on a systematic basis is daunting...] b) Lots of mid-range start/C mediocrity as is so often the case with Wikipedia, lots of it with a reasonable amount of content but needing some hacking around to get into shape c) If anyone is looking for a weekend project and is comfortable with political BLPs, I'd say Helen Clark is able to be pushed to GA with a bit of polishing and tidying, and Michelle Bachelet likewise. 10% of the list properly-reviewed would be nothing to sniff at. (Bachelet has an odd gap in that the article doesn't seem to have anything from her current presidency, but otherwise it's quite well-structured and not overly recentist, which is unusual for a politician's biography!). Andrew. On 17 June 2014 02:01, Toby Hudson <tobyyy(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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I've just wikified this in my userspace if anyone wants to quickly check out our articles on these women. The good news is that we have an article for each of them. The bad news is that article quality is pretty grim if these are truly the 100 most powerful women. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:99of9/100powerwomen Toby/99of9 On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > This is a pretty impressive showing for someone just 4 weeks into the > job: being named to the Forbes list of the 100 most powerful women: > http://www.forbes.com/profile/lila-tretikov/ > > > Note that increasing diversity is, according to the brief article, a > top > priority. > > Risker/Anne > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

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Sarah Stierch

29 Jun 29 Jun

8:19 a.m.

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...I went through....in what took weeks, and Wikidata'd the heck out of everyone on this list. The worst articles, the one's that need a lot of work, are the bottom half, for sure. The funniest to read is the Gisele Bundchen article. It needs a lot of work...to say the least and doesn't seem to be written by someone with a fashion background, to say the least. The last half have articles that just seem like they were written by PR firms at times. My favorite take from the Bundchen article is: "In 2008 Bündchen and Brady dished out turkey and all the trimmings unannounced to over 400 job trainees in Roxbury Massachusetts for Goodwill Industries International" HA HA! Dishing it out.. I have now read all 100 articles. Shakira is my new favorite celebrity and Adriana Huffington is good at plagiarizing. And there are some REALLY rich women in China. -Sarah On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Andrew Gray <andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk> wrote:

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Hi Andrew, Absolutely! Please do. Yes, it was nice to see some FA and GAs in the mix. Maybe we should

compare

a list of 100 most powerful men? Toby On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 6:02 AM, Andrew Gray <andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk> wrote: > > Stub tags are notoriously bad for this (I've just rerated half a dozen > of these; Toby, are you happy for me to update the list?) > > On the other hand, we can take away a somewhat positive message from > this as well: > > Two articles are FA and 6 are GA/equivalent. Across enwiki as a whole, > approximately 0.6% of articles are FA or GA class. So this subset of > articles is perhaps ten times better than the average... > > Andrew. > > On 16 June 2014 15:06, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > While I will agree that many of those articles could use significant > > improvement, I wouldn't take the assessments all that seriously; a lot > > of > > those articles have not been assessed in many years, despite

intervening

> > improvements. > > > > Risker > > > > > > On 16 June 2014 08:58, Toby Hudson <tobyyy(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> I've just wikified this in my userspace if anyone wants to quickly > >> check > >> out our articles on these women. The good news is that we have an > >> article > >> for each of them. The bad news is that article quality is pretty

grim

> >> if > >> these are truly the 100 most powerful women. > >> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:99of9/100powerwomen > >> > >> Toby/99of9 > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> This is a pretty impressive showing for someone just 4 weeks into

the

>> job: being named to the Forbes list of the 100 most powerful women: >> http://www.forbes.com/profile/lila-tretikov/ >> >> >> Note that increasing diversity is, according to the brief article, a >> top >> priority. >> >> Risker/Anne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

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Sarah Stierch

8:19 a.m.

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I just noticed I wrote "to say the least" and "needs a lot of work" multiple times. My brain is melting.... :) -Sarah On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi Andrew, Absolutely! Please do. Yes, it was nice to see some FA and GAs in the mix. Maybe we should

compare

a list of 100 most powerful men? Toby On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 6:02 AM, Andrew Gray <andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk wrote: > > Stub tags are notoriously bad for this (I've just rerated half a dozen > of these; Toby, are you happy for me to update the list?) > > On the other hand, we can take away a somewhat positive message from > this as well: > > Two articles are FA and 6 are GA/equivalent. Across enwiki as a whole, > approximately 0.6% of articles are FA or GA class. So this subset of > articles is perhaps ten times better than the average... > > Andrew. > > On 16 June 2014 15:06, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > While I will agree that many of those articles could use significant > > improvement, I wouldn't take the assessments all that seriously; a

lot

> > of > > those articles have not been assessed in many years, despite

intervening

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> >>> > >>> This is a pretty impressive showing for someone just 4 weeks into

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> >>> job: being named to the Forbes list of the 100 most powerful women: > >>> http://www.forbes.com/profile/lila-tretikov/ > >>> > >>> > >>> Note that increasing diversity is, according to the brief article,

>>> top >>> priority. >>> >>> Risker/Anne >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > -- - Andrew Gray andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

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Leigh Honeywell

8:26 a.m.

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Sarah you are such a champ! Thank you for slogging through all this!

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On Jun 28, 2014, at 11:19 PM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch(a)gmail.com> wrote: I just noticed I wrote "to say the least" and "needs a lot of work" multiple times. My brain is melting.... :) -Sarah

On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch(a)gmail.com> wrote: ...I went through....in what took weeks, and Wikidata'd the heck out of everyone on this list. The worst articles, the one's that need a lot of work, are the bottom half, for sure. The funniest to read is the Gisele Bundchen article. It needs a lot of work...to say the least and doesn't seem to be written by someone with a fashion background, to say the least. The last half have articles that just seem like they were written by PR firms at times. My favorite take from the Bundchen article is: "In 2008 Bündchen and Brady dished out turkey and all the trimmings unannounced to over 400 job trainees in Roxbury Massachusetts for Goodwill Industries International" HA HA! Dishing it out.. I have now read all 100 articles. Shakira is my new favorite celebrity and Adriana Huffington is good at plagiarizing. And there are some REALLY rich women in China. -Sarah

On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Andrew Gray <andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk> wrote: Done! All the stubs, at least. A couple of thoughts: a) As expected, most of the stubs weren't :-). BLPs are not my forte, but I'd say there's nine at most, and two or three of those are marginal to be uprated. [This is a pretty systemic problem with our talkpage ratings and stub tags: as Risker says, they get very stale. The sheer labour that would be required to keep them up-to-date on a systematic basis is daunting...] b) Lots of mid-range start/C mediocrity as is so often the case with Wikipedia, lots of it with a reasonable amount of content but needing some hacking around to get into shape c) If anyone is looking for a weekend project and is comfortable with political BLPs, I'd say Helen Clark is able to be pushed to GA with a bit of polishing and tidying, and Michelle Bachelet likewise. 10% of the list properly-reviewed would be nothing to sniff at. (Bachelet has an odd gap in that the article doesn't seem to have anything from her current presidency, but otherwise it's quite well-structured and not overly recentist, which is unusual for a politician's biography!). Andrew. On 17 June 2014 02:01, Toby Hudson <tobyyy(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Andrew, Absolutely! Please do. Yes, it was nice to see some FA and GAs in the mix. Maybe we should compare a list of 100 most powerful men? Toby On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 6:02 AM, Andrew Gray <andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk> wrote: > > Stub tags are notoriously bad for this (I've just rerated half a dozen > of these; Toby, are you happy for me to update the list?) > > On the other hand, we can take away a somewhat positive message from > this as well: > > Two articles are FA and 6 are GA/equivalent. Across enwiki as a whole, > approximately 0.6% of articles are FA or GA class. So this subset of > articles is perhaps ten times better than the average... > > Andrew. > > On 16 June 2014 15:06, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > While I will agree that many of those articles could use significant > > improvement, I wouldn't take the assessments all that seriously; a lot > > of > > those articles have not been assessed in many years, despite intervening > > improvements. > > > > Risker > > > > > > On 16 June 2014 08:58, Toby Hudson <tobyyy(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> I've just wikified this in my userspace if anyone wants to quickly > >> check > >> out our articles on these women. The good news is that we have an > >> article > >> for each of them. The bad news is that article quality is pretty grim > >> if > >> these are truly the 100 most powerful women. > >> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:99of9/100powerwomen > >> > >> Toby/99of9 > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> This is a pretty impressive showing for someone just 4 weeks into the > >>> job: being named to the Forbes list of the 100 most powerful women: > >>> http://www.forbes.com/profile/lila-tretikov/ > >>> > >>> > >>> Note that increasing diversity is, according to the brief article, a > >>> top > >>> priority. > >>> > >>> Risker/Anne > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Gendergap mailing list > >>> Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Gendergap mailing list > >> Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gendergap mailing list > > Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > > > > > -- > - Andrew Gray > andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

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Toby Hudson

17 Jun 17 Jun

3:08 a.m.

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Hi Risker, Of course you are right, but that is true across the encylopedia, so the relative abundances are probably comparable. Sorting by "category" is interesting. We're doing particularly poorly for the women in business or technology, not too bad for women in politics, and pretty well for female celebrities. Toby On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:06 AM, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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