Re: [Education-collab] Program&Events Dashboard - collab feed-back

If dashboard improvements end up highly supported in the survey, it's much more likely to receive developer attention from WMF next year.

Thanks Vojtěch! On a related note, I started a proposal in the new Community Wishlist Survey for making the dashboard good enough for education programs to be a viable replacement for the EducationProgram extension: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Categories/P… The current state of things is that the Community Tech team is working on the use case of edit-a-thon campaigns right now. Amanda and the Community Tech team have discussed the education program as a key use case for the future, but there aren't currently definite plans to prioritize that. The work so far has been done on behalf of the Learning & Engagement team that is Amanda is part of. But the main focus of the Community Tech team is to work on community-identified projects from the wishlist survey. Feel free to edit the proposal I started. If dashboard improvements end up highly supported in the survey, it's much more likely to receive developer attention from WMF next year. -Sage On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Shani <shani.even(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the update, Vojtěch! > I'm also in the process of translating it all to Hebrew and will begin > to > work with it shorly as a pilot in two of my academic courses. > > Cheers, > Shani. > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Sara Mörtsell > <sara.mortsell(a)wikimedia.se> > wrote: >> >> Hi Vojtěch, >> >> I really appreciate your update on the dashboard. I only started >> laborating with some of the student cohorts I have from the Education >> Program in Sweden, and I really need to learn more. And think of a >> good >> Swedish name for it before launching. >> >> Thanks, >> Sara >> >> 2016-11-08 17:54 GMT+01:00 Vojtěch Dostál >> <vojtech.dostal(a)wikimedia.cz>cz>: >>> >>> Dear collab-orators, >>> >>> since Stockholm I have been trying to help with the development of >>> the >>> Program&Events Dashboard which is, at some point, likely to replace >>> the >>> outdated Education Extension. Yesterday Amanda Bittaker (CC'ed) gave >>> me a >>> guided tour of the current state of dashboard and I had an >>> opportunity to >>> ask questions. I will also be taking part in biweekly calls with the >>> developer team to make sure that the Dashboard development is going >>> the >>> right direction. >>> >>> Some of you are probably already using it but most of the large >>> country >>> programs are not using it yet on a large scale. I think there is a >>> lack of >>> reliable and trustworthy information about the P&E Dashboard so let >>> me give >>> you an update what it does: >>> >>> Is is an open system letting anyone with a Wikipedia account log in >>> and >>> create his/her own course pages. There is nothing like userrights >>> except for >>> developer access >>> >>> advantage: no barriers, >>> disadvantage: possible vandalism or trolling. >>> >>> When you create a course page, you can send a link to this course >>> page so >>> that participants can log in. Students need to fill in a "password" - >>> this >>> can be publicly announced on the course page or entirely private >>> >>> advantage: enables to "close" course for a desired group people only >>> disadvantage: participants have to overcome one more step when they >>> want >>> to enrol in the course >>> >>> you can create a course by cloning one of your past course pages (not >>> someone else's) or by starting a completely new page. In the course >>> page >>> set-up, you can choose your "home project" and "home language". >>> >>> there is probably no way to add "templates" to course pages. For >>> example, >>> each our course page on Czech Wikipedia has a template which links to >>> guidelines, helpdesk etc. >>> >>> you can edit the course page if you are the creator or the creator >>> has >>> assigned you as the "facilitator" of the course. >>> >>> advantage: preventing changes done by people who have no relationship >>> or >>> knowledge about the project >>> disadvantage: teachers creating course pages have to assign local >>> coordinators as facilitators otherwise the facilitators cannot help >>> them >>> design the pages or curate them. This will lead to a load of e-mails >>> saying >>> "Can you please assign me as a facilitator to the course, sir?" >>> >>> creating campaigns (groups of courses) is not available yet. It is >>> not >>> sure when it will be ready but hopefully before March. This is >>> crucial to >>> large country programs - we need to have a list of "our" projects. >>> >>> advantage: you can include some information or links or training >>> material >>> to the individual course pages >>> disadvantage: anyone will be able to create campaigns - this will >>> lead to >>> a mess >>> >>> Overall the Community Tech team has done a good job in recent months! >>> Thanks for your work on this and especially for all you are planning >>> to do. >>> But we need more work before the large programs like ours are likely >>> to use >>> it on a large scale. >>> >>> For more information please see this page. You can give feedback on >>> the >>> discussion page there. This will be very useful for the developers >>> who are >>> eager to get some input, especially about the campaigns, according to >>> Amanda. >>> >>> Also I think we need to think about the name of the dashboard more... >>> I >>> cannot imagine telling our students to open browser and type >>> http://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/ - we should make a shortened >>> version >>> too with a catchy name than can be easily communicated without >>> knowledge of >>> English. My Phabricator ticket for this is here, without any comments >>> for >>> two months now. >>> >>> I understand there will be some announcements coming from the >>> Community >>> Tech team in near future. >>> >>> I think this would be also useful to the >>> education(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> people. There has been no official information about the Dashboard >>> for >>> months on that mailing list! >>> >>> best, >>> >>> Vojtěch Dostál >>> >>> předseda rady / chair of the board >>> Wikimedia Česká republika | http://www.wikimedia.cz >>> Facebook | Twitter | Newsletter >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> education-collab mailing list >>> education-collab(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education-collab >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Med vänliga hälsningar, >> Sara Mörtsell >> >> >> Sara Mörtsell | Education Manager, Wikimedia Sverige >> sara.mortsell(a)wikimedia.se | +4673-383 26 70 >> >> Stöd fri kunskap genom att bli medlem! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> education-collab mailing list >> education-collab(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education-collab >> > > > _______________________________________________ > education-collab mailing list > education-collab(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education-collab >