more likely to receive developer attention from
WMF next year.
Excellent reminder, and thanks for starting the proposal Sage! My team's
biggest push was getting the Dashboard usable for any Wikimedia project in
any language, and now we are working on campaigns, but there is still a ton
that could be done for education and other programs. The WMF currently
does not have any plans to dedicate Engineering time to further features.
Refining and supporting this proposal could make the difference.
Cheers,
Amanda
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Sage Ross <sage(a)wikiedu.org> wrote:
Thanks Vojtěch!
On a related note, I started a proposal in the new Community Wishlist
Survey for making the dashboard good enough for education programs to
be a viable replacement for the EducationProgram extension:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_Surv
ey/Categories/Programs_and_events
The current state of things is that the Community Tech team is working
on the use case of edit-a-thon campaigns right now. Amanda and the
Community Tech team have discussed the education program as a key use
case for the future, but there aren't currently definite plans to
prioritize that.
The work so far has been done on behalf of the Learning & Engagement
team that is Amanda is part of. But the main focus of the Community
Tech team is to work on community-identified projects from the
wishlist survey. Feel free to edit the proposal I started. If
dashboard improvements end up highly supported in the survey, it's
much more likely to receive developer attention from WMF next year.
-Sage
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Shani <shani.even(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the update, Vojtěch!
I'm also in the process of translating it all to Hebrew and will begin
to
work with it shorly as a pilot in two of my
academic courses.
Cheers,
Shani.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Sara Mörtsell <
sara.mortsell(a)wikimedia.se>
wrote:
Hi Vojtěch,
I really appreciate your update on the dashboard. I only started
laborating with some of the student cohorts I have from the Education
Program in Sweden, and I really need to learn more. And think of a good
Swedish name for it before launching.
Thanks,
Sara
2016-11-08 17:54 GMT+01:00 Vojtěch Dostál <vojtech.dostal(a)wikimedia.cz
:
>>
>> Dear collab-orators,
>>
>> since Stockholm I have been trying to help with the development of the
>> Program&Events Dashboard which is, at some point, likely to replace
the
>> outdated Education Extension. Yesterday
Amanda Bittaker (CC'ed) gave
me a
>> guided tour of the current state of
dashboard and I had an
opportunity to
>> ask questions. I will also be taking part
in biweekly calls with the
>> developer team to make sure that the Dashboard development is going
the
>> right direction.
>>
>> Some of you are probably already using it but most of the large
country
>> programs are not using it yet on a large
scale. I think there is a
lack of
>> reliable and trustworthy information
about the P&E Dashboard so let
me give
>> you an update what it does:
>>
>> Is is an open system letting anyone with a Wikipedia account log in
and
>> create his/her own course pages. There is
nothing like userrights
except for
>> developer access
>>
>> advantage: no barriers,
>> disadvantage: possible vandalism or trolling.
>>
>> When you create a course page, you can send a link to this course
page so
>> that participants can log in. Students
need to fill in a "password" -
this
>> can be publicly announced on the course
page or entirely private
>>
>> advantage: enables to "close" course for a desired group people only
>> disadvantage: participants have to overcome one more step when they
want
>> to enrol in the course
>>
>> you can create a course by cloning one of your past course pages (not
>> someone else's) or by starting a completely new page. In the course
page
>> set-up, you can choose your "home
project" and "home language".
>>
>> there is probably no way to add "templates" to course pages. For
example,
>> each our course page on Czech Wikipedia
has a template which links to
>> guidelines, helpdesk etc.
>>
>> you can edit the course page if you are the creator or the creator has
>> assigned you as the "facilitator" of the course.
>>
>> advantage: preventing changes done by people who have no relationship
or
>> knowledge about the project
>> disadvantage: teachers creating course pages have to assign local
>> coordinators as facilitators otherwise the facilitators cannot help
them
>> design the pages or curate them. This
will lead to a load of e-mails
saying
>> "Can you please assign me as a
facilitator to the course, sir?"
>>
>> creating campaigns (groups of courses) is not available yet. It is not
>> sure when it will be ready but hopefully before March. This is
crucial to
>> large country programs - we need to have
a list of "our" projects.
>>
>> advantage: you can include some information or links or training
material
>> to the individual course pages
>> disadvantage: anyone will be able to create campaigns - this will
lead to
>> a mess
>>
>> Overall the Community Tech team has done a good job in recent months!
>> Thanks for your work on this and especially for all you are planning
to
do.
>> But we need more work before the large
programs like ours are likely
to use
>> it on a large scale.
>>
>> For more information please see this page. You can give feedback on
the
>> discussion page there. This will be very
useful for the developers
who are
>> eager to get some input, especially about
the campaigns, according to
>> Amanda.
>>
>> Also I think we need to think about the name of the dashboard more...
I
>> cannot imagine telling our students to
open browser and type
>>
http://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/ - we should make a shortened
version
>> too with a catchy name than can be easily
communicated without
knowledge of
>> English. My Phabricator ticket for this
is here, without any comments
for
>> two months now.
>>
>> I understand there will be some announcements coming from the
Community
>> Tech team in near future.
>>
>> I think this would be also useful to the
education(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>
people. There has been no official information about the Dashboard for
> months on that mailing list!
>
> best,
>
> Vojtěch Dostál
>
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