Copyright laws are complicated; there are too many possible cases for
it to be possible to write a short and simple text for new users that
would cover all cases; furthermore, people typically have no intuition
about how copyright law works, and do not read our documentation
anyway (one reason for that might be that it is not always trivial to
find).
I do not think that the above can be fixed easily. What could do on
the short term, however, would be altering the "Image deletion"
template to inform people that it is not necessarily the end of the
world if an image of their is questioned. Some of my images get to
Deletion Request from time to time, and I do not find this insulting ;
there are so many image, so many problems, etc. that it is inevitable
that some images get requested for deletion, or indeed deleted. The
points to underline would be:
- it is the *image* that is questioned, not the user
- the point of the request is for the image to have its documentation fixed
- corollary: since there is no shame to have a few images deleted from
time to time, people should not hysterically defend images which
constitute copyright problems. I mean they should feel that it is not
necessary to go ballistic about it.
- maybe something should be done to encourage multilingual support
further and possibly bring people on the IRC or some instant messaging
where they can receive personal attention.
-- Rama
On 07/12/2008, Geoffrey Plourde <geo.plrd(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Sounds workable in theory, can it be carried out in
practice?
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From: Platonides <Platonides(a)gmail.com>
To: commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 5:10:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening
Lars Aronsson wrote:
Maybe we should turn the system around, so our
Swedish newcomers
can upload images to the Swedish Wikipedia, where they are
patrolled by Swedish speaking admins. Then, the patrolled images
can be automatically forwarded to Commons, instead of the other
way around. Even though this would require software development,
this seems a lot easier than trying to manage the admin community
on Commons.
So, what about this:
*User uploads from Swedish wikipedia using Special:GlobalUpload (only
for SUL accounts).
*The image is uploaded on commons, where it gets an additional tag with
'uploaded from Swedish wikipedia'.
*Blocked status of both local and commons is taken into account.
*The upload log is created on both commons and wikipedia.
*Once a wrong image is uploaded, there's a race condition between
commons ans Swedish admins to detect it. As commons get much more
images, they're likely to lose it.
*Image can be deleted both by commons admins and local sysops. Local
sysops can't delete it if it's older than a month (or another reasonable
time).
*Upload policies are still those of commons.
*Commons templates are shown at wikipedia on the local language if
available (interesting on its own, but hard).
*Talk page links on uploader should point to Swedish talk (or give links
to both talks).
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