[Wiktionary-l] Re: De-capitalisation-isation
Timwi
timwi at gmx.net
Wed Jun 23 00:23:38 UTC 2004
Muke Tever wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 18:07:02 +0100, Timwi
> <timwi at gmx.net> wrote:
>
>> Really? Can you provide links? I only remember people emphasising
>> that they don't mind because they think the current work-around work
>> perfectly for them. I seriously don't see how anyone can seriously be
>> opposed to having a dictionary with correct spellings. :/
>
> I disagreed,
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wiktionary-l/2004-May/000018.html
> Polyglot said it could be done but he would vote against it also:
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wiktionary-l/2004-May/000020.html
I'm sorry, but I can't extract any arguments against this change from
either of the two e-mails, only vague fears of something going wrong,
and a description of why the current ugly workaround "works". The only
relevant thing I can see is your comment that "having separately-cased
forms of words on different pages might overemphasize the difference
between some senses of a word"; but this, too, is not an argument
against the switch, only an argument against having two pages for
Cynosure. Surely you can put that on one page ([[cynosure]] perhaps) and
have the other be a redirect. This definitely does *not* apply to things
like [[Kind]].
But anyway ... this doesn't matter. I suppose we should have a vote,
then. I'll set one up on meta:
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/En_Wiktionary_case-sensitivity_vote
> By the way, how does search handle the existence of pages differing by
> capitalization? If someone searches for <greek> (v. [1]), which
> doesn't exist, are they sent to <Greek>, which does?
This is irrelevant here, because the same question already applies to
multiple-word titles.
> Are users who
> are used to case-insensitive search, or don't know the proper
> capitalization of the word, sent to <greek> when it is made, when they
> might have wanted <Greek> better?
Of course they are, but I sure hope that [[greek]] will contain a link
to [[Greek]]. This is not an issue relating to the change I'm advocating
here; this is a more general concern with the contents which is to be
solved separately.
> Will every word where capitalization
> is semantic have to be made into a disambiguation page?
Huh?
> I would *much* prefer that pages, instead of being case-sensitive, be
> case-insensitive (even more than they are now, perhaps), with the page
> title in title case, and the regular capitalization indicated inline,
> as is now normally done.
Are you sure you're not just saying that because you're afraid of
unforeseen consequences, or because you're simply used to the way it
works now? I seriously don't think anyone would want to turn
case-insensitivity on if we had started case-sensitively right from the
start.
Timwi
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