[Wikipedia-l] Wikipedia on iPod (Encyclopodia) available now

Wed Mar 1 12:48:50 UTC 2006

Poking my head in:

I don't have an particular argument, but this whole discussion feels
very wrong.  Wikipedia should not be acting like a corporation -- it
is not trying to make a profit; its mission is to spread knowledge. 
Period.

On 3/1/06, Anthere <Anthere9 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Before anything, Robert, Wikipedia on ipod looks wonderful.
> I do not have an ipod myself, so I can not *test*, but the very idea is
> great.
> Thank you for taking care of this.
>
> Now, far from being willing to annoy you, I regret to tell you that Mav
> is correct in his questions.
>
> You mentionned on the web page "Wikipedia content (screenshots): (c)
> 2001-2006 Wikipedia Contributors Permission is granted to copy,
> distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free
> Documentation License, etc...."
>
> This is just correct. BUT, while the content is free to use, the logo
> and the brand name are not free to use by anyone. So, you need to have
> an authorization for this.
>
> So, I would be happy that something is done about that. You may contact
> board AT wikimedia.org on the topic. Please, do not feel "assaulted",
> this is just basic requirement...
>
> A suggestion I would make as well concerns the call for donation you are
> making. While it would be a donation for the work you did to have the
> projects on the ipod itself, I think there might be a confusion in the
> public mind that the donation is somehow related to the encyclopedia
> itself. This is in particular due to the fact you called the software
> "encyclopodia". Have you thought of providing a link for donations to
> the Foundation currently supporting the Wikipedia project itself ? If
> not, I can certify it would be appreciated ;-)
>
> I should have an ipod someday...
>
> Ant
>
> Daniel Mayer wrote:
> > --- Robert Bamler <Robert.Bamler.epodia at gmx.de> wrote:
> >
> >>>A link?? You need the full text of the GFDL on the iPod. Also - I sent you
> >>>an offlist question about the use of the Wikipedia trademark and logo.
> >>>Again - did you get permission to do that?
> >>
> >>1. From your first sentence I really get the impression that you only want to
> >>annoy me (you have to give in that your remark is really silly since the iPod
> >>is an offline device)
> >
> >
> > My intent is not to annoy you, but to clarify some legal issues. You said link. Given widespread
> > improper usage, that could easily be interpreted as stating the network location. For example,
> > just writing http://gnu.org/fdl.htm - the link need not be active.
> >
> >
> >>2. I got your offlist question and I already sent a reply several hours ago.
> >
> >
> > You only said that you removed the image from the website. Is the image also on the iPod database
> > you provide? I don't have an iPod so can't check. But the much, much larger issue is trademark
> > related. IANAL, but the way you have used the trademarked term 'Wikipedia' seems to me to require
> > some sort of permission from the trademark holder (the Wikimedia Foundation).
> >
> > Asking if such permission had been sought and given is a perfectly legitimate thing to do.
> >
> >
> >>3. Have you had a look at the website again? Or don't you have the time for
> >>that because you're so busy looking for silly assaults against me?
> >
> >
> > Please don't feel assaulted since that is not my intent. I simply want to make sure that your
> > great use of Wikipedia content does not jeopardize Wikimedia-held trademarks. Trademarks *must* be
> > proactively protected or they could be lost.
> >
> > -- mav
> >
> >
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