[WikiEN-l] Re: Notice to an Admin

Phil Sandifer sandifer at sbcglobal.net
Mon May 30 17:04:53 UTC 2005


So your assertion is that  there's a large nexus of users with  
identical editing patterns all clustered in the same geographical  
area, on the same ISP, and they all happen to be getting each other's  
IPs when their cable modems disconnect?

Because I think it's the ice weasels, personally.

-Snowspinner

On May 30, 2005, at 12:54 PM, Cranston Snord wrote:

> I sent a response to this to the en-l mailing list yesterday, but  
> it has not appeared. I am attempting to send it again.
>
> If I do not see it this time, I will assume that one of you has  
> taken the step of removing me from the list for rightfully bringing  
> my complaints. This would be expected from the power-mad admins who  
> seem to be in control.
>
> On to David Gerard's laughable assertions:
>
> As for same pages of interest, no, we don't, as my edits will  
> attest: second, even if we did, Wikipedia has policy regarding  
> that, which I have already pointed out.
>
> As for the IP, David Gerard insists that Roadrunner keeps users on  
> the same IP "for months": actually, my record time for keeping an  
> IP has been two weeks. Your IP only stays static if your cable  
> modem stays online, and thanks to large-scale construction in my  
> area, we are regularly hit with brownouts and blackouts, not to  
> mention cable service downtimes.
>
> If a "Cranston Snerd" has edited Wikipedia, I'd like to see a  
> reference. Since I only edit with one account (named Enviroknot),  
> that is obviously a fake account set up by someone who is reading  
> this list and attempting to discredit me.
>
> I also want Mel Etitis, his puppet Yuber, and whichever else of you  
> have been defacing my user page to stop it. I have already warned  
> Etitis and Yuber repeatedly.
>
> -Enviroknot
>
>
>
>> From: David Gerard <fun at thingy.apana.org.au>
>> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at Wikipedia.org>
>> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at Wikipedia.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: Notice to an Admin
>> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 22:19:27 +1000
>>
>> David Gerard (fun at thingy.apana.org.au) [050529 22:16]:
>>
>> > ElKabong matches with KaintheScion firstly on writing style and  
>> pages of
>> > interest, and secondly they both edited [[Talk:George W. Bush]]  
>> in the same
>> > hour from the same IP. (I sent a list of the edits and their  
>> times to him
>> > and he emailed back saying I must have made that up.)  
>> KaintheScion and
>> > Enviroknot have the same pages of interest and edit from the  
>> same IP,
>> > starting as the IP and then as Enviroknot the moment I blocked  
>> Kain as a
>> > sockpuppet of ElKabong (who I unblocked - the problem is abusing a
>> > sockpuppet to pretend to be two people, not running a second  
>> account per
>> > se). Which is a DSL theoretically on DHCP, but I know Roadrunner  
>> often
>> > keeps people on the same IP for ages. Certainly this one.
>>
>>
>> Oh - and as well as Enviroknot's home IP matching Kain's,  
>> "Cranston Snerd"
>> has edited (and signed "Cranston Snerd") from the same two IPs  
>> favoured by
>> ElKabong. Thus completing the circle.
>>
>>
>> - d.
>>
>>
>>
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