[WikiEN-l] Re: [Wikipedia-l] Schools onen:(wasDoImisunderstandWikipedia

Thu May 19 20:04:03 UTC 2005

>From: David Gerard <fun at thingy.apana.org.au>
>
>JAY JG (jayjg at hotmail.com) [050520 05:26]:
>
> > "Very serious charge"?  Get real, this is a Wikipedia mail-list.
>
>Then it's just trash-talking and ad hominem to a class of editors (those
>who want to keep the school articles), and you really should be backing it
>u.

Again, not all school inclusionists, but a certain subset of them.  And I 
have backed them up.

>
> >  As for
> > evidence, here's one example of an editor who took some valuable time 
>out
> > of editing Pokemon related articles to make 17 identical keep votes on
> > schools in 9 minutes, and soon after another 10 identical keep votes in 
>4
> > minutes:
> > 
>[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Ketsuban]
> >  Several times she was able to get in 3 keep votes a minute.  I envy her 
>her
> > internet connection; I couldn't have even gotten to all those VfD pages 
>in
> > that time, much less read the related article, edited, voted, saved, and
> > returned.
>
>
>Assuming she edits like me (load a pile of tabs, read and vote) I'd expect
>to see just that result.

Do you reall think this is likely David?  If I lined up 17 tabs and hit 
"save" on each one, I'd have had all the edits done in a couple of minutes; 
her edits look much more like someone who was just plowing sequentially 
through the list as quickly as possible.  Don't forget, she was entering 
reasonably lengthy talk comments 
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bisexuality&diff=prev&oldid=13851103] 
just a minute before she went on her "keep" rampage, and a different one 3 
minutes before that.  Do you really think that while that was going on she 
was carefully reading each VfD'd article, then lining the VfDs up in a 
series of 17 Firefox tabs so that she should hit "save" on each one as close 
to simultaneously as possible, and even then it took 10 minutes for them all 
to save?  I'm asking your honest opinion here.

>So do you have any other substantiation for this assertion?

If you think that all the people who are making boilerplate "keep" votes in 
incredibly short periods of time are not actually just mindlessly and 
sequentially voting "keep", but rather are people who read the articles, 
consider them carefully, then like to line up all the votes in many 
different tabs so that the votes all show up on the Contributions list in as 
short a period of time as possible, then no.  But I think my assumption is 
far more reasonable and plausible than yours.

Jay.