[WikiEN-l] Re: Turn off AfD

Tue Dec 13 13:51:19 UTC 2005

On 12/13/05, Justin Cormack <justin at specialbusservice.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-12-13 at 08:19 -0500, Anthony DiPierro wrote:
> > C'mon, it's not like I'm asking for every single fact to be
> > referenced.  Adding a single reference to every single article is just
> > not a big deal.
> >
> > And yes, I myself have started articles without listing references.  I
> > did it because I'm lazy and there wasn't a rule against it.  We've
> > gotta stop lazy people like me.
>
> Its a worthwhile aim. I know there are articles I have created that
> still dont have references, guess I should fix them. Not sure that
> moving them into user space is the best solution - no one else will
> ever find them. I wrote a quick stub the other day (was redlinked
> from several places, clearly notable, but couldnt find any references.
> Within an hour someone else had found references, written a much
> longer article. This wouldnt have happened in my user space.
>
> Justinc

Well, the latest version of the proposal didn't move to user space
until 24 hours later, so this would still have gotten fixed.  I'm sure
there are other examples though, especially in the current system.  I
just think they'd be minor enough that they'd be far outweighed by the
increased efficiency in dealing with crap.

Right now we waste a lot of time dealing with crap.  Running an
article created by some "anonymous redshirt" through a 5 day voting
process when the creator of that article did absolutely nothing to
help us out is feeding the trolls.

If people want to spend the time going through crap and turning it
into gold, let them see the articles *after* they've been deleted.  It
should be an optional process though.  Personally I'd have fun doing
it.  Others wouldn't.

I think it'd be the Great Wikipedia Compromise.  Give the
inclusionists who apply for the job the power to see deleted articles.
 Be more lenient about keeping well written and well referenced
articles on obscure topics.  And be less tolerant about keeping around
crap.  Both sides would win.  Everyone would laugh and be merry. 
Alright, that last sentence was overboard.

Anthony