[WikiEN-l] David Hager is listed as convicted rapist

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Tue Dec 6 03:59:41 UTC 2005


This is the same issue which came up with the [[Category:Soviet
spies]]*. I think it would be a good policy (it may already be one)
that categories which deal with extremely POV topics that avoid mixing
the "crime" with the "person". "Criminals" is semantically not
different in English from "People convicted of a crime" though in a
psychological sense it certainly is.

FF

*(which, by the way, was ruled "lack of consensus" on CFD after a
slurry by a slurry of paleoconservative editors rallied by the
aforementioned Nobs, most of whom had no idea what they were really
voting on, in my mind)

On 12/5/05, Anthony DiPierro <wikilegal at inbox.org> wrote:
> On 12/4/05, JAY JG <jayjg at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >From: Keith Old <keithold at gmail.com>
> > What about, say, a criminal was killed before conviction by a court - say
> > [[Michael Robert Ryan]]?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jay.
>
> If the person is dead, they certainly can't sue us for libel (of
> course, they can't sue *us* for libel anyway, only the person who
> actually added the libelous statement).
>
> But the NPOV issues are more serious.  I don't see how a category such
> as "criminals" can possibly be NPOV.  "Convicted criminals" maybe.
> "Indicted criminals" might be possible.  "Alleged criminals" would
> probably be way too broad (might as well redirect it to "List of
> people").
>
> Anthony
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