[WikiEN-l] David Hager is listed as convicted rapist

Sun Dec 4 22:52:09 UTC 2005

Jay,

Conviction is the most verifiable form of evidence re crime there is.
However, we can report doubts over a conviction reported in reputable
sources as part of NPOV.

We shouldn't have editors playing amateur detective, however.

Regards

*Keith Old*

Keith Old

On 12/5/05, JAY JG <jayjg at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >From: Matt Brown <morven at gmail.com>
> >
> >I responded to this user previously on the helpdesk.  The issue is
> >that David Hager was accused of marital rape by his former wife, who
> >got an article published in The Nation about this, among other places.
> >  Thus the allegations, true or not, are documented and citable, and
> >thus cannot be removed as unsourced attacks.
> >
> >However, he should NOT be listed in any categories that imply he has
> >been convicted of a crime, because he has not.
>
> I've been have a months-long debate with another editor on this
> topic.  I've
> been stating that we include people in "Criminals" categories if they have
> been convicted of a crime by an independent judiciary.  The other editor
> insists that we have to decide (by some means) whether or not they have
> actually committed a crime, conviction is not enough a good enough
> yardstick.  I'd be interested in other thoughts here.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jay.
>
>
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