[Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

Tue Nov 15 14:32:31 UTC 2011

Achal, I don't quite understand what is the idea, meaning or whatever you
wrote in your mail.

Can you explain (this time with full and meaningful sentences), please?
_____
*Béria Lima*
<http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484

*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>*

On 15 November 2011 14:19, Achal Prabhala <aprabhala em gmail.com> wrote:

> Can we not pick on a person whose "POV" is that he wishes to participate
> in the Wikimedia movement in the fullest way possible?
>
> Pick on me instead. Oh wait...
>
> Best wishes,
> Achal
>
> On Tuesday 15 November 2011 07:40 PM, Béria Lima wrote:
> > OMG Gomà, can´t you leave any thread in peace without push your POV?
> > _____
> > *Béria Lima*
> > <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484
> >
> > *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> > livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
> > construir esse sonho.<http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>*
> >
> >
> > On 15 November 2011 09:37, Joan Goma<jrgoma em gmail.com>  wrote:
> >
> >>> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:12:42 +0000
> >>> From: B?ria Lima<berialima em gmail.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust
> >>>
> >>> *The way I see is India is a land of immense potential for the
> Wikimedia
> >>>> Movement. IMHO, There is enough space of 10 chapters and Wikimedia
> >>> offices
> >>>> to co-exist and work together in India.*
> >>>>
> >>> Did you ever read the Chapter Agreement you signed with WMF? That
> >> document
> >>> states that WMIN is the ONLY chapter of WMF in India, and that any one
> >>> organization must have their "approval" to work in Indian soil (I'm
> >> saying
> >>> that based in WMPT agreement, WMIN one might be different.)
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I think that the spirit of an agreement is more important than its
> wording
> >> but
> >> I would like to comment both.
> >>
> >> Regarding the wording, in my opinion what the contract says can be
> >> interpreted exactly the other way around. It says that to create another
> >> chapter in the same geographical area WMIN will be consulted. [1] It
> >> doesn’t say that the approval of WMIN is needed. Furthermore to create
> an
> >> organization different than chapters not even that consultation is
> >> foreseen.
> >>
> >> As for the spirit I feel that the impression that chapters have private
> >> ownership of land is a big mistake that can leads us to a situation
> >> contrary to
> >> our values. This exclusivity is contrary to the spirit of sharing. We
> are
> >> not cultivating potatoes where the owner of the land keeps the
> potatoes. We
> >> give the potatoes away. The more and better people working the land more
> >> potatoes can give away. We don’t need land owners, what we need are
> >> people working
> >> the land.
> >>
> >> I think these organizations should be happy of having there each other
> >> andsee
> >> a chance that what one of them can’t do, perhaps will be done by the
> other.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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