[Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

Tue Nov 15 14:19:49 UTC 2011

Can we not pick on a person whose "POV" is that he wishes to participate 
in the Wikimedia movement in the fullest way possible?

Pick on me instead. Oh wait...

Best wishes,
Achal

On Tuesday 15 November 2011 07:40 PM, Béria Lima wrote:
> OMG Gomà, can´t you leave any thread in peace without push your POV?
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> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
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> On 15 November 2011 09:37, Joan Goma<jrgoma at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>>> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:12:42 +0000
>>> From: B?ria Lima<berialima at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust
>>>
>>> *The way I see is India is a land of immense potential for the Wikimedia
>>>> Movement. IMHO, There is enough space of 10 chapters and Wikimedia
>>> offices
>>>> to co-exist and work together in India.*
>>>>
>>> Did you ever read the Chapter Agreement you signed with WMF? That
>> document
>>> states that WMIN is the ONLY chapter of WMF in India, and that any one
>>> organization must have their "approval" to work in Indian soil (I'm
>> saying
>>> that based in WMPT agreement, WMIN one might be different.)
>>>
>>>
>> I think that the spirit of an agreement is more important than its wording
>> but
>> I would like to comment both.
>>
>> Regarding the wording, in my opinion what the contract says can be
>> interpreted exactly the other way around. It says that to create another
>> chapter in the same geographical area WMIN will be consulted. [1] It
>> doesn’t say that the approval of WMIN is needed. Furthermore to create an
>> organization different than chapters not even that consultation is
>> foreseen.
>>
>> As for the spirit I feel that the impression that chapters have private
>> ownership of land is a big mistake that can leads us to a situation
>> contrary to
>> our values. This exclusivity is contrary to the spirit of sharing. We are
>> not cultivating potatoes where the owner of the land keeps the potatoes. We
>> give the potatoes away. The more and better people working the land more
>> potatoes can give away. We don’t need land owners, what we need are
>> people working
>> the land.
>>
>> I think these organizations should be happy of having there each other
>> andsee
>> a chance that what one of them can’t do, perhaps will be done by the other.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Agreement_between_chapters_and_Wikimedia_Foundation#3.%20Geographic_limits
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