[Foundation-l] Concern for the safety of Wikimedians at Wikimania in Alex...

Tue Mar 4 22:25:07 UTC 2008

It's no problem. I found your post informative, and I was actually
flattered that you used my name.

Mark

On 04/03/2008, Oldak Quill <oldakquill at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 04/03/2008, Dan Rosenthal <swatjester at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Oldak,
> >
> > I have to disagree with part. I do think there have been signs that
> > the Foundation recognizes there are issues. I don't think they're
> > doing enough about it, but that's very obviously my selfish opinion
> > vs. what the foundation feels is how far they need to go. I understand
> > that "what I want", i.e., what I believe the best solution to be
> > (namely, postponing Wikimania by a few months and moving it to South
> > Africa instead), is very unlikely to happen.  That being said, the
> > foundation has recognized there are issues. Sue is investigating the
> > security issues, Florence has responded to the complaints we've
> > brought up by presenting them at the board meeting. There's not a
> > whole lot more we can ask for, at least, not until Sue's report comes
> > back. We have to be realistic about what the ED and the board have the
> > power to actually do about our concerns. Basically, while it's not as
> > much as I personally would like, I think the foundation has done as
> > much as they can. It's selfish to then ask for more. (I'm not saying
> > that as a criticism of anyone at all,  nor accusing anyone of being
> > selfish, rather, as a thought process as to how I feel and what I
> > think about the steps the foundation has taken when I send these
> > emails).
>
> Perhaps you are right, there has been a response (or there is one in
> the process). Speaking for myself, I think the response has been
> inadequate in the months leading up until this week. I thank Anthere
> for bringing these issues up at the meeting. We'll have to wait and
> see how the board responds and what the report says.
>
> Mark and Dan, if I used your names out of turn, accept my apologies. I
> used your names because you have both been active in the discussions
> (with a bunch of other people) and I had interpreted non-satisfaction
> (where there may now be satisfaction).
>
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