[Foundation-l] Quran in Sitenotice

Thu Jul 13 16:42:04 UTC 2006

What I understood from the discussion. Two guys oppose it. They gave their reasons. Two are in favour and both are administrators.
I think why the other people didn't talk much was because the few arguments that are in Urdu literally made
it like everyone who is working on urdu wikipedia is not against Qur'an and if you are not against Qur'an
then you shouldn't have any problem with this Sitenotice, and as long someone who doesn't like Qur'an
is not part of the community, this should go on. The final point is that as no one is getting angered
therefore this promotion of Islam should continue. This point was made on 8th of July. After this there
is no discussion, and I think it is assumed that it is fine with everyone, therefore continue
with this practice.

I can see why people didn't reply much. If you make this issue religious, like in favour
or oppose of Qur'an then obviously people will be reluctant. I think the sitenotice should
be removed. There is simply no point in it at all.

--heema

----- Original Message ----
From: Sean Whitton <sean at silentflame.com>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at wikimedia.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 5:57:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Quran in Sitenotice

You're absolutely right, the discussion should be raised over there,
and it appears that it already has. However, I don't quite understand
the comments of Heema - when you say that the discussion is over and
the decision has been made, do you mean that there was an overwhelming
argument or that someone with a level of authority stepped in? The
latter seems unlikely because theoretically there isn't anyone except
the board of a local arbcom that could do that, afaik. Could you
clarify this, please?

On 13/07/06, Robert Scott Horning <robert_horning at netzero.net> wrote:
> Sean Whitton wrote:
>
> >In response to this I would say that #2 is the most important pillar,
> >something which Jimbo used to quote on his userpage (this seems to
> >have gone now). I would agree with him because a projects as wide
> >reaching as the foundation's cannot prosper without this. We need to
> >keep things as open and accessible as possible and only through NPOV
> >can we encourage people to get involved. If I was a non-Muslim speaker
> >of Urdu, I can imagine being concerned that the site was heavily
> >orientated in that direction, which is not the idea. Referring to #1,
> >it's an encyclopedia and the only purpose of having different
> >languages is to allow others to read and edit, not to make any other
> >divisions.
> >
> >
> But are you a non-Muslim speaker of Urdu who has complained and dealt
> with this locally on the project?  I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't
> raise concerns, but a knee jerk reaction is also not called for if there
> is a place to address this within the Urdu Wikipedia and getting active
> users from within that project to deal with the issue.  I just havn't
> see what steps are being done from within the community to address the
> issue.  If you have tried to deal with this issue and admins are being
> belligerant in keeping this sitenotice up, that would be a completely
> different issue altogether.  Even then, we are only getting one side of
> this issue and assuming bad-faith.
>
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> Robert Scott Horning
>
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