[Foundation-l] Cherokee Wikipedia Name Suggestion

Wed Jul 12 16:55:30 UTC 2006

Oldak Quill wrote:

>How amusing!
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>For a language like Cherokee then (agglutinative), it seems
>appropriate to not use transliteration.
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You can use transliteraton, but there are rules to avoid using 
conjugators and verb stem modifiers in trasliterations since these
create meanings in the word and may create something unintended.

>Thinking about agglutinative languages, do you know what the Japanese
>Wikipedia is called (I would imagine that it too avoids
>transliteration).
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Not a clue.

Jeff

>On 12/07/06, Jeffrey V. Merkey <jmerkey at wolfmountaingroup.com> wrote:
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>>Oldak Quill wrote:
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>>>Most Wikimedia projects don't translate "Wikipedia", "Wiktionary", and
>>>"Wikimedia", they transliterate them. Even non-Latin alphabets do
>>>this: Russian Wikipedia is called "Википедию" which transliterates as
>>>Ve-I-Ka-I-Pe-Ye-De-I-Ya (those are the names of the letters, at
>>>least). Does Cherokee have some kind of formal transliteration system?
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>>>On 12/07/06, Jeffrey V. Merkey <jmerkey at wolfmountaingroup.com> wrote:
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>>>>The name should be:
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>>>>ᏗᎪᏪᎵ ᎦᏣᏄᎳ
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>>>>(digoweli gatsanula)
>>>>"the books = pedia " " that are fast = wiki "
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>>>>to match the actual meanings of the words "wiki" and "pedia".
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>>>>The current name of the site, while catchy, is not accurate for the
>>>>language, and was synthesized.
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>>>>Just a suggestion...
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>>>>Jeff
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>>Yes. it does have one for words like this, but taking potshots at the
>>name can create something you do not intend.
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>>Let's look at it:
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>>Wi-gi-que-di-ya
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>>wi  - (negative imperfect past tense)
>>gi - to combine
>>que - incomplete verb root about an animal
>>di - plural for a non living object
>>ya - broad area of concern (means "pertains to or covers a broad area or
>>topic)
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>>Not to mention "di" is always at the start of a pural word, "gi" is a
>>modifier always at the end of a word, que isn't a word at all, and "wi"
>>is a tense modifer always at the end of word.
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>>Translation:
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>>"Something very negative in the past was put together for (??? -
>>something that resembles a contraction of the word nesgi which means
>>keep your hands off of it) , and there were a bunch of them (di) that
>>dwell in a large area.
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>>In other words, its current name implies "negative place to keep your
>>hands off of and there's a whole bunch of us here".
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>>Based on the edit history of the site, seems to have been the course
>>followed.  Perhaps we should change its name?
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>>Jeff
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