[Foundation-l] Emergency on Wiktionary

Sat Aug 12 18:40:33 UTC 2006

40 admins, 25 are bureaucrats? Yikes! I thought having 42 admins with 4
bureaucrats was a lot!

Let's see how Serbian Wikipedia works this out. I wouldn't be surprised if
they needed any outside intervention, though.

On 8/12/06, Filip Maljkovic <dungodung at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ray Saintonge wrote:
> > Walter Vermeir wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Ray Saintonge schreef:
> >> [cut]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> While it is also possible that there can be rogue bureaucrats, these
> >>> will be proportionally rarer than rogue admins.  Anyone who has become
> a
> >>> bureaucrat has a very high degree of trust in the community, and
> >>> especially in relatively larger communities there is sufficient
> >>> oversight to prevent the abuses that may be more common with the
> >>> untested bureaucrats of tiny communities.  Speaking arbitrarily, one
> >>> could define a larger community, as one with at least 50,000 articles
> >>> and/or 2 active bureaucrats.
> >>>
> >>> Ec
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Not all wikis are the same. You can not project the situation of EN to
> >> all other wikis.
> >>
> >> I have just done a de-sysop/de-bureaucrat on the Serbian Wikpedia.
> There
> >> the have (now) 40 sysops and of those 25 are bureaucrat.
> >>
> >> That is from my POV an irresponsible number of bureaucrats. I do not
> >> know how many active user there are. The have 34700 articles.
> >>
> >>
> > 25 bureaucrats on such a small project doesn't make sense considering
> > the limited duties that are reserved for bureaucrats.  Still it's up to
> > the sr community to sort that one out.
> >
> > Ec
> >
> The fact that we have that many bureaucrats comes from our character as
> a community: up until recently we've been pretty open and hadn't made a
> big deal out of administrators and bureaucrats. But now, with what's
> been happening recently, I think that there's a consensus that we should
> reduce the number of bureaucrats to a minimum (5 or so) that would carry
> out the bureaucrat tasks when they are asked.
>
> Filip
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