New subject: [Wikitech-l] Re: Fwd: [Foundation-l] Import question

17 Feb 2005

Ray Saintonge wrote:

...
  jellings wrote:

  To clarify on my original post:

 I have a text file of dictionary terms - word, definition plus another
 file of word, synonyms - since I already have it in this format it
 would be a lot easier to import it.

 I CAN reformat the file, but to enter it manually would take too long
 (there are over 20,000 entries in the dictionary file alone, more in
 the synonyms).

 I do not have a complete understanding of the database schema so the
 answer may be obvious to others; any insight would be helpful.  

 Now that you have clarified your intention it is evident that this is 
 a Wiktionary matter.

 This might be raised in [[Wiktionary:Beer parlour]], but I suspect 
 that it would not receive a warm reception.  While the words which are 
 not yet in Wiktionary might be welcomed there would remain the 
 question of how do you propose to reconcile your contributions with 
 the words that we already have.  To the extent that any upload may be 
 possible it should also be done at a rate that is slow enough to allow 
 others to ask questions about each of your contributions.  Perhaps by 
 first entering a small sample of your files you could develop the 
 confidence of the Wiktionary community that your contributions are 
 acceptable.

 Ec (en:Wiktionary sysop) 
Hoi,
This is a great example where the en:wiktionary assumes that is only has 
been adressed when dictionary terms are mentioned. It also assumes that 
its practices are the same on all wiktionaries. It is only one 
wiktionary and they are not.

There are several wiktionaries that welcome quality content and load 
them in bulk with a bot onto their pages. We even apply for temporary 
bot status so that it can be uploaded with a personalised bot (good for 
the GFDL requirements). This is a great way of beefing up the content of 
a project. Certainly when as often happens, the content is either 
specialised or with translations to a specific language it can be an 
extremely worthwhile addition to the wiktionary.

The argument that the upload should be slow enough for the community to 
ask questions is based on what, fear ?? There is already plenty of 
content on en: that is questionable like words spelled wrong, this is 
spelled out, but hey, it is a dictionary and content SHOULD be correct. 
So when you argue let us know what the content is about, I could agree. 
When you say do it slowly as we want to look into every addition, I 
would say that this is not feasible using a bot.

Thanks,
    GerardM

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