Yes, the issue on Chinese Wikipedia seems fixed now.
H.T.
[[w:zh:User:Htchien]]
[[w:en:User:Htchien]]
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From: wikitech-l-bounces(a)wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikitech-l-bounces@wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Brion Vibber
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 5:39 PM
To: Wikimedia developers
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Help: Chinese Wikipedia error on Variant zh-cn,
zh-tw, zh-hk, zh-sg
mingli yuan wrote:
> Hi, buddies. We need your help on Chinese Wikipedia.
>
> This morning all pages are shown with errors: internal links are
> missing, pictures can not be shown, tables are upset. But if you
> change the language variant from zh-cn, zh-tw, zh-hk, zh-sg to zh, all
things return to normal.
This is (hopefully) fixed now.
I'm not sure how or why, but this was triggered as a side effect of the
message transformation changes I introduced earlier today. It doesn't seem
to have affected anywhere but Chinese Wikipedia, and I have had great
difficulty trying to reproduce the problem locally.
For the moment I've reverted the changes, so constructs like
{{urlencode:$1}} and {{fullurl:$1}} are broken again.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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[[:fr:user:Solensean]] wants [[:fr:template:rand]] (1) to be deleted without
any "Vote for deletion" [[:fr:WP:PàS]] procedure. He says on the French
Village Pump « Pour plus de précisions, vous pouvez contacter
m:User:Brion <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Brion>, le développeur
principal du logiciel, pour lui demander son avis sur #rand, ou le modèle
l'émulant. ». (2)
My position on whether we should keep or delete [[:fr:template:rand]] is
nuanced. My position on using Brion's name to enact what amounts to
an infringement of the Deletion Policy ([[:fr:WP:PàS]]) is somewhat less
nuanced.
To my best knowledge, no abuse of [[:fr:template:rand]] has been
reported so far.
Teofilo
Links :
(1) http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modèle:Rand
(2) http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipédia:Le_Bistro/28_mai_2006#Modèle:Rand
Hi, buddies. We need your help on Chinese Wikipedia.
This morning all pages are shown with errors: internal links are missing,
pictures can not be shown, tables are upset. But if you change the language
variant from zh-cn, zh-tw, zh-hk, zh-sg to zh, all things return to normal.
An automated run of parserTests.php showed the following failures:
Running test Table security: embedded pipes (http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2006-April/034637.html)... FAILED!
Running test Link containing double-single-quotes '' (bug 4598)... FAILED!
Running test BUG 1887, part 2: A <math> with a thumbnail- math enabled... FAILED!
Running test Language converter: output gets cut off unexpectedly (bug 5757)... FAILED!
Running test HTML bullet list, unclosed tags (bug 5497)... FAILED!
Running test HTML ordered list, closed tags (bug 5497)... FAILED!
Running test HTML ordered list, unclosed tags (bug 5497)... FAILED!
Running test HTML nested bullet list, open tags (bug 5497)... FAILED!
Running test HTML nested ordered list, closed tags (bug 5497)... FAILED!
Running test HTML nested ordered list, open tags (bug 5497)... FAILED!
Passed 322 of 332 tests (96.99%) FAILED!
While I'm thinking about it (and surely this must have been proposed
before and I'm not using the correct search term), some incentive to
decorate user pages could be curbed by not indexing it in the search
engines. That is, add nofollow to the html in User and User talk.
I'm actually a bit disgruntled that Google places such a high priority on
Wikipedia that my (fairly sparse) User page recently became the top entry,
rather than the more useful entries about my security work. So, for
professionals, nofollow would be a boon.
Pointers to code would be appreciated.
Hi
Yesterday, I tried to forward three times a mail with attachment from
the partnership queue on OTRS. Nothing happened (no mail was received).
It reminds me that there was a similar bug some time ago, but it was fixed.
Do you guys observe the same issue (no forward when done with
attachment) ? Could that be the old bug going live again ?
Thanks
Anthere
I stumbled across the recent discussion on this list regarding the
TaxAlmanac Discussion Forum and thought I'd join in and participate in the
discussion. My name is Tim Doyle, and I am the moderator for the TaxAlmanac
wiki (http://www.taxalmanac.org), and also responsible for driving the
effort to launch our discussion forums. Our forum was launched mid-November
last year and has been a great success for us. Our customers have found it
much easier to use than the standard talk pages. Contributions to the site
increased dramatically shortly after we launched these forums. Let me take a
stab at answering some of the comments from the earlier discussion thread:
Erik Moeller wrote:
> I just saw that Tax Almanac, a MediaWiki customized by Intuit
> software, has a very interesting integrated discussion system:
>
> http://www.taxalmanac.org/index.php/Discussion_Forum_Index
>
> It uses normal wiki pages in the "Discussion:" namespace to store the
> threads, and stores the comments themselves as parametrized templates
> within these pages. But the user interface looks like any ordinary
> bulletin board.
>
> I don't see any links to source code and don't expect that it is
> available. Has someone talked to them about whether they'd be willing
> to open source it already?
>
We wanted our discussion forum to be built into / based on standard
MediaWiki pages, which allows for links to other articles, enables searches,
and also encourages users to become familiar with the wiki in general. We
created a namespace specifically for these discussions, and added categories
to the topic pages so that they could be segmented into different discussion
categories. This approach allows us to easily move a discussion from one
category to another, or to add it to multiple categories.
We used a set of templates on the site to define what is added to new topics
or when other users reply. These refer to other templates which then work
with a modified monobook.css to define how the pages actually look.
phil.boswell at gmail wrote:
> They seem to be using an extension to provide the "most recent
discussions"
> view, sourced from a particular namespace JOINed with a given category.
That is correct. We wrote another extension which returns a current list of
articles within a specified namespace, and optionally filtered on a given
category. We can also pass in the number of items to return, the name of a
template to apply to the results to customize the look of the results, etc.
ecable at avxw wrote:
> I contacted the person who developed that system, may be able to get
> the source code and start working on it; perhaps I can even get him
> involved in this list! (-;
You succeeded. Regarding the source code, it is not currently available, but
we are currently reviewing if we should do this. I will keep you informed.
We've been approached by Jimmy on this issue, so you can be assured that we
are taking the requests seriously.
timwi at gmx wrote:
> That is indeed interesting; however from a software engineering point of
> view it is extremely hacky and probably hard to maintain. I strongly
> recommend against using this in official MediaWiki.
I'm not sure why you consider our approach a 'hack' or hard to maintain.
Could you explain?
Platonides at gmail wrote:
> They use special extensions Special:Newthread (not listed at specialpages)
> and probably the edit form is tweaked too.
>
> They format it through several templates:
>
> {{ForumThreadHeading|title|title}}
> {{ForumNewPost|UserID=Foo|Date=29 February 2006|Text= .......}}
> {{ForumReplyPost|UserID=Joe|Date=30 February 2006|Text=....}}
>
> <recentpages>
> namespace=Discussion
> |category=User_Introductions
> |limit=50
> |template=DiscussionsOnIndex
> |top=sticky
> </recentpages>
>
> I guess they do it with the templates. Don't know wat would happen if we
> started writeng there invalid wiki syntax and closing the template mark.
;)
Platonides got it basically correct. As far as how we protect against
incorrect syntax, any characters, such as "}" or "|" which might adversely
affect the discussion posts are converted to HTML entities before they are
written to the page. Of course users could edit the page using the standard
wiki editing mechanism, but we have not found this to be a problem. On the
few occasions where someone has made a mistake here, they typically fix it
very quickly. Yes, it is possible for someone to vandalize the discussions
in this way, but we would deal with that as we would with any other type of
vandalism.
I'd be very interested to hear more from the community, and I look forward
to participating in the discussions!
Thank you,
Tim Doyle
An automated run of parserTests.php showed the following failures:
Running test Table security: embedded pipes (http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2006-April/034637.html)... FAILED!
Running test BUG 1887, part 2: A <math> with a thumbnail- math enabled... FAILED!
Running test Language converter: output gets cut off unexpectedly (bug 5757)... FAILED!
Running test HTML bullet list, unclosed tags (bug 5497)... FAILED!
Running test HTML ordered list, closed tags (bug 5497)... FAILED!
Running test HTML ordered list, unclosed tags (bug 5497)... FAILED!
Running test HTML nested bullet list, open tags (bug 5497)... FAILED!
Running test HTML nested ordered list, closed tags (bug 5497)... FAILED!
Running test HTML nested ordered list, open tags (bug 5497)... FAILED!
Passed 318 of 327 tests (97.25%) FAILED!
Hi,
I'm getting this text when searching for page that doesn't exist:
No page with that title exists.
You can [[::Aoeuaouo|create this article]] or request it.
That is, in the rendered page, I'm actually seeing [[:: etc.
Someone break something?
This is on EN btw.
Steve
I think this will not be necessary, because she has just tried editing again and everything is OK now.
Thanks.
----Message d'origine----
>Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 05:41:45 -0700
>De: Brion Vibber <brion(a)pobox.com>
>A: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org>
>Sujet: Re: [Wikitech-l] Number of days new users are prevented
>
>folengo(a)netcourrier.com wrote:
>> 1) User name :
>>
>> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Suziecat
>>
>> 2) semi-protected page she says she attempted to edit :
>>
>> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chat
>
>Now I need:
>* the exact time of the attempted edit
>* the exact description of the problem
>* if possible, an exact description of a current attempt to make the edit
>* including details of whether there was an attempt to reload the page, log
>out/in, etc
>
>-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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