On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 00:38:38 -0700, Mark Williamson
<node.ue(a)gmail.com> wrote:
19k articles is huge. It is more than decent. It
makes zh a usable
encyclopedic resource with only a few omissions in normal browsing.
Not wanting to debating this to death, but here are some numbers:
World Book Concise Encyclopedia - 25,000 entries
Britannica Concise Encycloepdia - 24,000 to 28,000 depending on edition
Oxford Concise Encyclopedia, paperback - 12,000 entries
I'd consider ZH decent, not huge, considering many of the 19,000 ZH
articles are not "production quality."
Following some links from today's featured article and checking on
their ZH counterpart:
Economics (sparse)
Population (stubby)
Litre (substubby)
Ecology (missing)
Look, ZH is a very good achievement so far. No one is trashing it. It
just can't 't be considered as on a healthy S-curve yet. Given the
number of Chinese speakers, there's work to be done. I'm not the first
to point this out. See this previous post and look for "zh:"
http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2004-March/032596.html
Your only giving actual figures for "very
active" Wikipedians is also
selective spin. "Active" Wikipedians are obviously much higher in
number and are what makes zh.wikipedia a community rather than a
closed group of friends.
Active Wikipedians follows the same trend - ZH in December *just*
climbed back to May 2004 levels in terms of active Wikipedians. See
for yourself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wikistats/EN/ChartsWikipediaZH.htm
Same trends, so what? There are 180 active users.
Calling very active Wikipedians a "closed group
of friends" is
inaccurate. There are plenty of active Wikipedians in EN that I can't
stand. :)
I meant the difference between a group of 40 and a group of 180.
You try to
make it sound as if zh.wikipedia is devoid of all life
except for the lone Wikipedian here and there - that's ridiculous.
Please quote anything from previous emails that comes close to saying
"devoid of life."
"make it sound as if" implies that you didn't say it directly.
If Nishishei
really wants to work on a Wu Wikipedia, and he can draw
other editors/readers, then why do you want to redirect his efforts to
zh.wikipedia? That's a bit selfish.
I don't think asking someone to work on a GFDL project, putonghua or
Wu, can be considered "selfish."
I think it's selfish to say "No, you cannot have a new Wikipedia
because we want you to work on ours instead."
Mark